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A Christian without the Church is purely idealistic, Pope says
cna ^ | May 15, 2014 | Elise Harris

Posted on 05/15/2014 2:15:20 PM PDT by NYer

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To: betty boop
Please permit me to direct your attention to #81, #78, #138, & #139, this thread.

Thanks.

141 posted on 05/16/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS; metmom

YHAOS: Liberals are trying to inflict their culture, which includes a monstrous perversion of Christianity, on Western Civilization Culture. And I must say they have been largely
successful at the enterprise.

Spirited: Permit me as well to suggest a slight correction. Rather than the opaque, nearly meaningless term ‘liberal’ why not say:

Evil-minded natural men, ‘beast-men’ to early conservative intellectuals, are inflicting our culture with their disordered passions—pride, jealousy, covetousness, lust, envy—and resulting words and behaviors—insufferable self-righteousness, bullying, endemic lying, threats, slander, theft, perversion of youth, etc. Their success can be seen by the evil condition of our culture described by St. Augustine as libido dominandi.


142 posted on 05/16/2014 10:38:31 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: YHAOS

What you are describing, I think, is the Liberal’s vision of how to get things done.


You would be WRONG...
The “right-wing”.. to me are left wing..
I’m soo far to the right.. I fell off the bird..


143 posted on 05/16/2014 11:52:03 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: dfwgator
That was the way Jones worked.....he sounded like a typical Baptist preacher, but he never mentioned God or Jesus, he just worked Marxist theory into his “sermons.”

In contrast to the socialist pope who calls for “legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State"?

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

144 posted on 05/16/2014 12:01:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: YHAOS

Actually, I think a lot of the change in definition of the term *Christian* has come from within the church.

*Christian* is a noun, a person who is a follower of Christ, born again according to Scripture.

Our culture has come to use the name as an adjective, saying that the person is a Christian person, meaning they behave as would be expected from a Christian, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they have ever put their trust in Christ.

Or sometimes people say they’re a Christian, because they’re not Jewish, or Mormon, or Muslim, or whatever. It’s a label, not a true description of who they are.


145 posted on 05/16/2014 12:06:16 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: YHAOS

So I find it useless to ask someone if they are a Christian, because most people would say yes, meaning they think they are good people, but not because of their identifying with Christ.


146 posted on 05/16/2014 12:07:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Gamecock

When the Pope is taking about being a member of the Church, he mentions Mass. Guess where Mass is held? He was referring to the Christians that comprise the Catholic Church, and Orthodox Church, not ecclesial communities, which protestants are a member of. Everything he said is true.


147 posted on 05/16/2014 12:56:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

or at least they hope it is


148 posted on 05/16/2014 12:57:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: NYer; Elsie

Said pope number 3.

Lots of little pope hats running 'round this joint.

And...they're battling it out...

Who will prevail this go 'round? The always second-guessers? The "what he really meant to say was" pope jrs? Or the pope-corn poppers who snack while watching all the kerfuffle-ing?


150 posted on 05/16/2014 1:23:27 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: YHAOS
Kindly show me the exact statement where I have even suggested what you allege.

I copied and pasted it from your post #78! Your exact words! Go back and look!

151 posted on 05/16/2014 1:23:31 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Some exercises are left to the student.


152 posted on 05/16/2014 2:25:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Its not a good sign when the student is correcting grammar errors in the handout instructions.

But I'll bite anyway. Why would you think the earthbound perception of time applies to heaven? God created Heaven before time itself existed.

153 posted on 05/16/2014 2:36:07 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Elsie

Those quotes make my point exactly. Compare those quotes with Francis’ quotes. Totally not the same.


154 posted on 05/16/2014 3:18:13 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
God created Heaven before time itself existed.

More 'science' the church teaches?

155 posted on 05/16/2014 3:19:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Genesis, actually. Its right near the front of the bible, you might want to give it a once over.


156 posted on 05/16/2014 4:33:47 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: YHAOS
Please permit me to direct your attention to #81, #78, #138, & #139, this thread.

My attention has been so directed. What am I supposed to see/conclude from these narratives? IOW, what am I MISSING?

157 posted on 05/16/2014 5:18:22 PM PDT by betty boop (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“You left out “nanny nanny boo boo”.”

It clearly wasn’t necessary since you resorted to saying it.

“The childish back and forth with freepers who either can’t follow a logical argument, of refuse to do so because it would cause them to admit they are wrong gets really tiring.”

Your feelings are your problem. If you feel tired, take a nap.

“I made a logical argument.”

No, actually you didn’t.

“You won’t accept it. I’m not going to engage in a poisonous tit-for-tat with you.”

Take your ball and go home.

“I’m droping out here.”

You barely showed up here to begin with.


158 posted on 05/16/2014 7:41:40 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you, Dear Sister in Christ, for the ping!

As a general rule, I only lurk on RCC-themed threads. With my "tact", my comments are sure to offend someone on one side or the other... '-)

159 posted on 05/16/2014 8:40:34 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
LOLOL! Thank you for all your insights everywhere you do post, dear brother in Christ!
160 posted on 05/16/2014 9:09:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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