Posted on 05/15/2014 12:50:47 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
“Since you have been keeping them secret, maybe all of them.”
I’m not keeping anything a secret, but my beliefs aren’t the topic of your thread, now are they?
“You do believe in a thousand year reign of Christ on earth, don’t you?”
Sure, that’s what the Bible says.
“So, the so-called “raptured saints” will not return to reign on earth with Christ for 1000 years?”
They must, because that’s where they are at the end of the thousand years when Gog and Magog try to make war on them. We’ve been over this before, I know you believe that nations can somehow walk to heaven, but I’ll stick with what John says, instead of trying to spiritualize it.
Are you ashamed of your beliefs? Mine are listed in this thread for all to see.
>>>They must, because that’s where they are at the end of the thousand years when Gog and Magog try to make war on them. <<<
Where does it say it will be a physical war on earth? I recommend you read it again. The Saints reign with Christ over the Church from heaven. Satan and his minions are going after the entire church, all over the world, to deceive it. (Mat 16:19.)
This is the scripture:
"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." (Rev 20:9 KJV)
This is Merriman-Webster's definition of "breadth:"
1: distance from side to side: width 2: something of full width 3: comprehensive quality: scope
Therefore, the so-called "Gog and Magog" deception of the nations by Satan and his minions is a spiritual war against the Church over the entire earth; not in some small area of the middle east as claimed by dispies/futurists. We can see that happening now, with all the corruption and perversion, especially via Hollywood, the Networks, the "Education" system, the media and the political parties. And what do some members of the Church do? Instead of fighting against Satan, they pray for the "rapture." Such selfishness! Such shame . . .
>>>We’ve been over this before, I know you believe that nations can somehow walk to heaven, but I’ll stick with what John says, instead of trying to spiritualize it.<<<
Futurists/Dispensationalists have spiritualized Revelation 20 to a great extent. That is partly, if not mostly, why Satan has gained such a foothold in the last century. The Church formerly controlled the Christian nations. Now Satan controls the former Christian nations.
Philip
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