Posted on 05/02/2014 12:28:06 AM PDT by GonzoII
Mockery is so befitting of a real man. /s
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
Mock God and His Scripture at your own peril.
? And no, no one needs purgatory. You're either saved or not. If you're saved, it's heaven. If you're not, it's hell.
It’s all Catholics have left in their arsenal when they cannot context a teaching out of Scripture.
It’s all Catholics have left in their arsenal when they cannot context a teaching out of Scripture.
Chalk it up as a win.
It says more about the poster than those being mocked.
Unscriptural baptisms. They are not even alluded to in Scripture. Simply another Catholic construct.
The thief on the cross got into heaven that day because Jesus forgave him, not because of some alleged reason that the Catholic church made up to explain away why it doesn't believe Scripture.
Just what facts to you have to back this up?
The common ground for catholics and protestants is quite solid... they tend to have some common worship habits that most don’t think about...I never did until I started to ask, seek and knock...
purgatory and the sacraments and mary and the pope are just mother/daughter squabbles with what they do share..
“And no, no one needs purgatory. You’re either saved or not. If you’re saved, it’s heaven. If you’re not, it’s hell”
Well so says brotha Jimmah Swaggart and so says metmom.
And you certainly don’t need to go to church, so says brotha
Jimmah Swaggart and so says metmom. Just “believe” and “get born” again! Can I hear an amen? How bout another?? Amen!
Baptism of Desire
http://www.romancatholicism.org/trent-baptism.html
http://www.cmri.org/02-baptism_blood-desire_stalph.html
http://catholicism.about.com/od/baltimorecatechism/f/Question_160_BC.htm
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/HOW2PURG.htm
Because the doctrine of purgatory was held by pre-Christian Jews, post-Christian Jews, Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox, nobody thought of denying it until the Protestant Reformation, and thus only Protestants deny it today.
Opinion pieces by Catholics to rationalize things that have no Scriptural support are meaningless.
There is no God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture that teaches that anything but the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin.
There’s no Scripture to support it.
It’s irrelevant how many people believed it for how long.
It’s wrong and right and wrong do not change in God’s economy.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
oh, contraire
Even the Jews knew the apocrapha was NOT SCRIPTURE, they only included it as history
so, those who add to scripture are the ones in error, especially if they call documents that even the Jews rejectd as not scripture, as scripture...
knowing Jesus never referred to any doctrine of burning off sin for an unknown time, yet referred to men as going to paradise or awaiting eternal torment with no inbetween...
you need a good King James, English language directly translated from the original tongues, not from Greek to Latin to English as the Douay
And, if you like, get a 1614 KJV, that has the apocrapha in it... I am not a KJV purist, I just believe we dont need 100 different English translations when one was good enough already (and then was updated with 150 changes by 1787 I think...and I think 50 more by 1879)...
I prefer a Zodhiates study Bible, it has the greek dictionaries , Hebrew dictionaries, some notes, but I usually ignore notes
Do you know of an article like this regarding Free Will?
I agree. In Revelations Jesus is described as having 7 horns and 7 eyes for the 7 Churches hes the Lord of... I know I am not qualified to judge who is saved or not...
Chapter and verse please?
God calls. Faith saves. He didn't ask Christ for a "Baptism of Blood," or "...Desire" -- he asked for Jesus to remember him. How simple:
"42 And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:42-43 ESV)"
"...remember me when you come into your kingdom," not, "baptize me with blood," or, "I desire to be baptized!"
And Jesus told him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise," -- not some imaginary Purgaory.
Why try to insert some man-made charlatanry into such a sweet, simple thing as grace? We don't deserve salvation; God saves us through Christ's shed blood... not some bloody baptism.
Hoss
Now you’re just sounding like a babbling idiot.
Amen! It should be noted here that the Eastern Orthodox Church also disagrees with the Catholics on Purgatory. It was but one of the many reasons they split in the eleventh century. One of the reasons they deny the doctrine of Purgatory is that it was NOT something believed or taught by Jesus, the Apostles or the early church but was thought up much later by the Roman catholic church.
I believe the phrase they use is “Roman novelty.”
Yes, it IS indeed! In Hebrews 10:18 says, "Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." Because of Christ's once for all sacrifice, we who have believed in Him are made righteous and cleansed from all our sins - past, present and future. That is why there can NOT be any other offering for sin - no matter how long someone suffers in a Purgatory. The basic premise for this heretical doctrine is faulty. That is why is was and still is rejected - for good reason.
Jesus, before He resurrected (those three days, remember?) is when He went to Paradise and "led captivity captive" (Eph. 4:8 cf Psalm 68:18) into Heaven. THEN he arose from the dead and walked with His disciples for forty days before He ascended into heaven. Jesus told the believing thief, "I tell you this day you will be with me in Paradise.", and he WAS and then along with the souls waiting there, Jesus led them into heaven because He had paid the penalty for sin and opened the gates of heaven for them.
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