Matthew Vines holding a Bible in a photo dated Aug. 16.
Andrew Walker's full review of God and the Gay Christian, which includes pastoral considerations, can be read here
Posted on 04/23/2014 8:23:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Andrew Walker's full review of God and the Gay Christian, which includes pastoral considerations, can be read here
Here are the chapters:
“God, the Gospel and the Gay Challenge: A Response to Matthew Vines”
“How to Condone What the Bible Condemns: Matthew Vines Takes on the
Old Testament”
“Suppressing the Truth in Unrighteousness: Matthew Vines Takes on the New Testament”
“What Has the Church Believed and Taught? Have Christians Been Wrong All Along?”
“Is a ‘Gay Christian’ Consistent with the Gospel of Christ?”
Read the booklet by clicking here
“The former Harvard University student, who is gay, rejected traditional Christian teaching on homosexuality and explained in an over hour-long argument using Scripture that the Bible does not condemn loving, same-sex relationships.”
Well, sure, the Bible in fact demands that we love everyone regardless of their sex. Having homosexual sex, on the other hand, is roundly denounced as an abomination.
And Luther’s great work continues.
RE: And Luther’s great work continues.
I don’t see how this relates to Luther at all...
Matthew Vines is standing on the shoulders of giants.
Yes Sir, the bible is extremely clear on this, there’s no way to misinterpret it. I’m an evangelical Christian, and I know myself and others are not going to be “confused” as he would like. Just another false prophet, nothing to see here, move along.
Coming soon...
“God and the Lustful Christian: A New Look at Looking and Drooling”
“God and the Angry Christian: An Alternative View to Suppressing Real Feelings”
“God and the Covetous Christian: Another Perspective on Wanting More Stuff Than You Have”
“God and the Obese Christian: A Second Look at a Second Helping”
Well, today we have three lesbians in a marriage in Massachussets. Hopefully Vine will write a wonderful book about how that’s God’s will too. </s>
“And Luther’s great work continues.”
Spreading misinformation and sowing discord is never a admirable attribute.
My, aren’t you a little ray of sunshine?
Dude looks possessed literally...
“nor is there any call to lifelong celibacy for gay people”
No, there isn’t, since God does not acknowledge ‘gay’ as a real thing. Same sex attracted people are free to find a wife or husband of the opposite sex and engage in sexual activity within marriage with that person.
What does God say about same-sex sexual activities?
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Lev 20:13
Pretty damn clear on the moral law their. The word abomination doesn’t have double-meanings.
the gay christian along with the virgin prostitute and the honest thief.
“And Luther’s great work continues.”
And the work of many of your buggering priests.
So there are no heretics or queers in the Catholic Church?
Butt boy drivel
Well that's just the thing, isn't it?
The ones in our ranks don't even bother to argue that what they are doing is defensible according to Church teaching. They either publicly denounce Church teaching or they hide.
They can't really argue that they are following the Church's interpretation of Scripture or that they are following the Church's tradition.
They are forced to either be non-Catholics or disobedient Catholics.
What Vines is doing is quite different. He is insisting on two core Reformation principles: the sufficiency of Scripture alone and private judgment of Scripture.
He is arguing that traditional morality is not sufficiently supported by Scripture alone and he is also arguing that his own prayerful, deliberate searching of the Scriptures supports his view.
There Matthew Vines, he can do no other.
And who can refute him on these grounds? Albert Mohler - a very intelligent and learned theologian of a thoroughly reformed background falls back on a 2,000 year interpretive tradition to refute Vines.
As well he should, because he cannot fight Vines on either sufficiency or private judgment grounds.
Please see post 18.
Sure ... those are called friendships.
When those "same-sex relationships" turn sexual -- they are condemned throughout the Bible for the perversions that they are.
Sodom and Gomorrah got a front row preview seat regarding those that 'go after strange flesh' (Jude 1:7).
We are told not to deceive ourselves into believing that God will 'wink' at these sins (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God).
And the first Chapter of Paul's letter to the Romans tells us that a Nation should expect this outbreak of 'perversion' when it forgets God (or as Psalm 9 puts it: Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God).
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