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Evangelicals Review Matthew Vines' 'God and the Gay Christian' Book
Christian Post ^ | 04/23/2014 | BY STOYAN ZAIMOV

Posted on 04/23/2014 8:23:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: IrishBrigade

Oh, they need to be woken up? Do they post 50 anti-Catholic threads a day in their sleep?


81 posted on 04/24/2014 7:17:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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Should the proper reaction be to ignore what he is doing rather than try to pick it apart?

...don’t know...but the improper reaction to this particular article is to make a theologically charged statement, knowing that it will engender vituperative responses from the numerous Catholiphobes on this forum, and then engage these people with what can only be viewed as ancillary arguments, detracting from an article about which nearly universal agreement should result...


82 posted on 04/24/2014 7:35:25 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Christian culture in the West is collapsing at a rapid pace.

Vines is turning some of the most potent destructive weapons of one branch of Christianity against it.

I'm sure most FReepers agree that Vines' position is immoral and wrong.

It is a boring FR indeed when we have 100 posts repeating the truism that Vines is wrong - the strength of FR is, or used to be, analysis. Discerning what it is actually going on beneath the surface journalism.

You cannot combat Vines' thesis by saying: "He's wrong because he didn't privately meditate on Scripture as effectively as I have privately meditated on Scripture."

That isn't an argument.

Who is using the right method to determine right from wrong?

Vines adopting Luther's methodology, or Mohler adopting Augustine's methodology?

I submit that Mohler is making the right counterargument from the right grounds.

83 posted on 04/24/2014 8:06:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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Vines adopting Luther’s methodology, or Mohler adopting Augustine’s methodology?

I submit that Mohler is making the right counterargument from the right grounds.

...all of that is well and good, as well as the point about boring echo chamber, but my beef with your tactic remains...you took a topic about which Christians need to unite, and pointlessly developed it into a Catho-Prot brouhaha, and we get the inevitable surge of malediction from the usual Calvinist suspects, resulting in a degraded thread, as such threads normally do...


84 posted on 04/24/2014 2:00:54 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Thank you for noticing that and making the point. For all the beefing some Catholics do over their perceived "anti-Catholic" comments made by "Protestant" Freepers, very few can even specify what was said that makes it appear that way to them. To claim "Protestants" post 50 anti-Catholic threads a day "in their sleep", is just nonsensical, hysterical rhetoric.

The majority of Religion Forum threads are posted by Catholics and those that end up being Catholic vs. Protestant extended battles usually were started BY Catholics intentionally to provoke those who are not Catholic. This thread was not one of them but it didn't take very long for someone to ignite the fuse. You're correct...this IS a subject that we CAN agree on and there was no need to start an argument by blaming Martin Luther for the misguided author's justification for his error. I guess some people itch so much for a fight that when there isn't one, they start one!

85 posted on 04/25/2014 12:22:03 AM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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