Posted on 04/15/2014 3:53:45 PM PDT by Salvation
Sunday nonsense was instituted at Lao DiCea in 364 AD.
Prior to that there was some traditional Shabbat worship and some pagan worship.
That council was when the massacre of Yeshua’s true followers began in earnest.
Certainly not by upbringing. (Baptist mostly through childhood)
The practice of worshipping Sun Day originated a long time before Constantine. So did the Friday worship of Dagon the fish god, and Easter, the goddess of fertility.
“Sunday nonsense was instituted at Lao DiCea in 364 AD.”
LOL, Justin Martyr gives witness that the Apostles worshipped ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, since this was the day Jesus rose from the dead.
Christians do not keep the 7th day sabbath, since to do so, would mean we deny Jesus Christ has come and fulfilled the law. Christians are free from the ceremonial law, and are only bound to the law of Christ, which is the law of love.
Jesus Christ is our sabbath, Christians rest IN HIM.
The first ‘Bibles’ were scribed on sheep skins.
Informal copying was done on papyrus by individuals.
. So did the Friday worship of Dagon the fish god, and Easter, the goddess of fertility.
very interesting......can you name anyone today who teaches or practices the worship of either “dagon” or “easter”?
This is not true.
The Apostles would attend the synagogue on Saturday and then get together for a Eucharistic meal on Sunday.
Read the Early Church Fathers who knew the apostles.
The apostles did indeed get together “on the first day of the week,” but that was Havdalah on what you would call Saturday evening.
All mention of gathering on the first day of the week in the NT is the Havdalah tradition.
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Did you miss the whole word “Gutenberg” in my question? LOL!
Can anyone point me to one verse in the NT that after Jesus rose from the dead, anyone:
1. was told to keep the Sabbath
2. that any Christian kept the 7th day sabbath.
just one??
Good grief, the Apostles were present at the Last Supper when Jesus instituted the Eucharist. Sorry you seem not to believe the Bible.....am I correct there?
The entire NT is about the apostles and their followers keeping the sabbath and the feasts.
That is the whole story line of the NT! They never wrote about anything else but the sabbaths and the feasts.
Yeshua didn’t ‘institute’ any pagan eucharist!
He invoked the ancient blessing of the Melek Zedek, and commanded the disciples to remember him each time that they broke a loaf of bread and drank the wine.
That is what the word says.
The entire NT is about the apostles and their followers keeping the sabbath and the feasts.
That is the whole story line of the NT! They never wrote about anything else but the sabbaths and the feasts.
THAT’S ONE NO, ANYONE ELSE?
BTW - the whole story line of the NT is salvation through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. the sabbaths and feasts were types and shadows pointing towards Christ, once He appeared, the types and shadows were no longer needed.
i am 55 years old, and have never heard of “dagon” before.
again, i ask you, does anyone teach or practice the worship of dagon or easter?
is thou shall not bear false witness still in the Bible?
They are still needed as they are shadows of Yeshua's second coming as well.
Matthew 12
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Son of man - ben adam - idiom for human being, say Ezekiel or Daniel, or even when abbreviated it's ב"א, so could also hint at B.O. the pseudo savior.
Heart of the earth...
Matthew 6
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Sounds like a dip into the US Treasury or Dirty Harry's retirement plan. A pile of mammon, a stockpile of material wealth, the baubles and bullion of Babylon, etc. A grave all right, but still not necessarily a literal place.
Besides, the text reminds me of another popular argument re the definition of generation. An evil and adulterous generation has existed thoughout history. Generation to generation.
Exodus 17
13 And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.
14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
15 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi:
16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.
I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
Luke 11
29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.
31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
At this point it's still looking good for Daniel 8:14 to read as,
And he said unto me, until the eve of a morning, 2003 from a sign, then the holy will be vindicated.
Maybe you need to read more scriptures then?
"When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the temple of Dagon and set it by Dagon. And when the people of Ashdod arose early in the morning, there was Dagon, fallen on its face to the earth before the ark of the LORD. So they took Dagon and set it in its place again. And when they arose early the next morning, there was Dagon, fallen on its face to the ground before the ark of the LORD. The head of Dagon and both the palms of its hands were broken off on the threshold; only the torso of Dagon was left of it. Therefore neither the priests of Dagon nor any who come into Dagon's house tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod to this day." - 1 Sam 5:2-5
"Now the lords of the Philistines gathered together to offer a great sacrifice to Dagon their god, and to rejoice. And they said: "Our god has delivered into our hands Samson our enemy!" When the people saw him, they praised their god; for they said: "Our god has delivered into our hands our enemy, The destroyer of our land, And the one who multiplied our dead." - Judges 16:23-24
Judges 16:23 - Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand.
1 Chronicles 10:10 - And they put his armour in the house of their gods, and fastened his head in the temple of Dagon.
1 Samuel 5:7 - And when the men of Ashdod saw that [it was] so, they said, The ark of the God of Israel shall not abide with us: for his hand is sore upon us, and upon Dagon our god.
1 Samuel 5:2 - When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon.
1 Samuel 5:3 - And when they of Ashdod arose early on the morrow, behold, Dagon [was] fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the LORD. And they took Dagon, and set him in his place again.
1 Samuel 5:5 - Therefore neither the priests of Dagon, nor any that come into Dagon's house, tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod unto this day.
1 Samuel 5:4 - And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon [was] fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the LORD; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands [were] cut off upon the threshold; only [the stump of] Dagon was left to him.
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