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Thousands of Rare Vatican Manuscripts to Go Online
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 3/20/14 | Francis X Rocca

Posted on 03/20/2014 7:45:14 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Elsie

“One of your fellow travelers has said on another thread that “I’ll not waste my time on some anti-Catholic screed.”

1) I have no “fellow travelers”. That term is commonly reserved for left wingers and members of other irrational groups. It might qualify for Protestants of anti-Catholics, but not Catholics.

2) So what?


101 posted on 03/23/2014 4:49:05 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

You are a clever one aren’t you. I will leave you alone. You are, no doubt, used to that.


102 posted on 03/23/2014 5:06:20 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: vladimir998
Believe it or not I read the entire post.

I disagree with a couple of points the author makes, and more importantly, I think Cardinal Cajetan and Cardinal Ximenes who reflected the view of the church of their day would have disagreed with his view that the varying canons were merely reflective of what was used in the liturgies of the different churches..

However, you did not answer my question, so I will ask it again. I was talking about 1 Macabees. How does quoting from the other deuterocanonical books prove the canonicity of I Maccabees as inspired Scripture?

Cordially,

104 posted on 03/23/2014 5:28:49 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

“Believe it or not I read the entire post.”

Maybe you did. Maybe you didn’t.

“I disagree with a couple of points the author makes, and more importantly, I think Cardinal Cajetan and Cardinal Ximenes who reflected the view of the church of their day would have disagreed with his view that the varying canons were merely reflective of what was used in the liturgies of the different churches..”

Your opinion doesn’t matter.

“However, you did not answer my question, so I will ask it again. I was talking about 1 Macabees. How does quoting from the other deuterocanonical books prove the canonicity of I Maccabees as inspired Scripture?”

In itself I never said it did. Why do you think the Eastern Orthodox accept 1 Maccabees as canonical?


105 posted on 03/23/2014 5:46:29 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
All you can do is deny reality.

You've (and your chosen religious organization) has shown no reality.

Only what is hoped to be true.

108 posted on 03/24/2014 3:25:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

At least you noticed, if not admitted, the insult directed your way.

My fellow travelers of Bible Students will be impressed.

We’ll get together later; in a secret place; and discuss and refine our tactics to bring Biblical truth to a waiting world.


109 posted on 03/24/2014 3:28:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Lt

Dang!

I go to bed and the thread starts to resemble Swiss Cheese!


110 posted on 03/24/2014 3:29:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nailbiter

BFLR


111 posted on 03/24/2014 3:30:26 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: vladimir998
Your opinion doesn’t matter.


112 posted on 03/24/2014 3:30:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
In itself I never said it did.

Nice deflection try.

What does it MATTER whether YOU said it or not?

The question stands fairly on it's own:

How does quoting from the other deuterocanonical books prove the canonicity of I Maccabees as inspired Scripture?”

It is MORE valid than your red herring of, "Why do you think the Eastern Orthodox accept 1 Maccabees as canonical?"

113 posted on 03/24/2014 3:34:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998

Vladimir, are you just a ignorant roman catholic or just never read a book?


114 posted on 03/24/2014 4:02:28 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: Elsie

“You’ve (and your chosen religious organization) has shown no reality.”

That comment just makes you look even more out of touch with reality.

“Only what is hoped to be true.”

Again, your comment just makes you look even more out of touch with reality


115 posted on 03/24/2014 5:11:00 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

“My fellow travelers of Bible Students will be impressed.”

Your fellow travelers are just bigots not Bible Students.

“We’ll get together later; in a secret place; and discuss and refine our tactics to bring Biblical truth to a waiting world.”

You’ll make the world wait because you wouldn’t know the Biblical truth if it was in front of you - and it is.


116 posted on 03/24/2014 5:13:23 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

The same goes for your pictures.


117 posted on 03/24/2014 5:13:50 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

“Nice deflection try.”

No deflection just the truth. That’s why you can’t refute it.

“What does it MATTER whether YOU said it or not?”

If you’re implying I said it how did it not?

“The question stands fairly on it’s own: How does quoting from the other deuterocanonical books prove the canonicity of I Maccabees as inspired Scripture?””

Can’t you figure it out?

“It is MORE valid than your red herring of, “Why do you think the Eastern Orthodox accept 1 Maccabees as canonical?””

Actually, no. My question is a much better one because it instantly shows that this is not merely a Protestants vs. Catholic issue.


118 posted on 03/24/2014 5:18:18 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Doulos1

“Vladimir, are you just a ignorant roman catholic or just never read a book?”

Well, I’m not ignorant, I’m not “roman catholic” and I’ve probably read more books than you ever will.


119 posted on 03/24/2014 5:19:34 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Doulos1

Don’t try to have a legitimate conversation with him. You will get nowhere. Then he will whine to the admins about being picked on.


120 posted on 03/24/2014 5:37:12 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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