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To: Colofornian; All
They claim all their leaders are “unpaid”

Your OP says the Mission President is "reimbursed" for expenses. And goes on to clearly show the person is not an employee. Ok.

No where in the article does it say they receive a salary.

So, they are telling the truth, they are not paid. Reimbursement is paying for the goods or service first, you produce a receipt, and are given the money back as a gift in return.

I can only guess if those numbers are correct, then someone would have to have $100K+ in the bank per year they serve. Half a million to a million dollars in the bank, just to serve if the Church didn't reimburse? That's not a reasonable expectation.

Your OP is hyperbolic nonsense.
106 posted on 02/01/2013 3:06:52 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: MeOnTheBeach; handmade; WilliamRobert; Dan(9698); All
No where in the article does it say they receive a salary.

Listen, for many Lds leaders on the take, there's no essential difference between, say $50,000 worth of annual "stipends" and a salary...For more on this, which, btw, includes 70 Lds presiding BISHOPricsS, see: How many church leaders receive a 'Stipend'

So, they are telling the truth, they are not paid. Reimbursement is paying for the goods or service first, you produce a receipt, and are given the money back as a gift in return.

Are you serious? Did you read the article? There's not a whole lot of positions where the following is taken care of 100%:

Living expenses include:
* food,
* clothing,
* household supplies,
* family activities,
* dry cleaning,
* personal long-distance calls to family,
* and modest gifts (for example, Christmas, birthdays, or anniversary).”
* support for children serving full-time missions;
* dance lessons (and the like) for elementary and secondary school-aged children as well as their school tuition, fees and books;
* undergraduate college tuition; a gardener; a housekeeper;
* internet
* utilities;
* babysitters;
* transportation expenses including the use of a car and all fuel and maintenance expenses;

That's beyond the normal "benefits" of med expenses, which are also covered 100%...and I don't know of a whole lot of "jobs" where employees don't have to pay out a co-pay for those...the "mission prez" positions involve 100% med coverage...

115 posted on 02/02/2013 2:29:16 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Shhhh.... you will ruin their self-righteous ranting with facts.


120 posted on 02/04/2013 6:59:41 AM PST by Capt. Canuck
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Never read the article but after your comment this morning I did.

LDS must have some creative lawyers but, I can see both sides on this.

At first look it appears they are indeed providing income, in that every expense for the family is reimbursed. Down to dance lessons, tutors, all food etc.

Then again, it could be said that is how the church operates and they can’t predict each families needs. therefore, they leave it up to the family to choose the living arrangements and care, rather than provide a fixed situation which soul preclude a large number of families in some years and be far to large for families in other years.


166 posted on 02/08/2013 11:33:11 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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