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Meet Mitt Romney’s cousin (Uh-oh!)
The Washington Post ^ | February 2, 2012 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 02/03/2012 6:05:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Park Romney says some pretty wild things.

Mormonism, he writes on the Web site parkromney.com, “is an insidious contemporary fraud.”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is “an American cult,” he professes.

Mitt Romney, he claims, would be conflicted in office because “obedience to the leadership of the Mormon Church is part of the covenant of the temple ordinances to which Mitt Romney is absolutely a party.”

Were you to come across a man articulating such views on a street corner, you probably would give him a wide berth and look over your shoulder to make sure he wasn’t following you.

But Park Romney, apostate Mormon, is no street-corner eccentric. He is Mitt Romney’s second cousin. Church documents and archival research done by The Post’s Lucy Shackelford trace Park’s lineage to Miles Park Romney, who is also Mitt’s great-grandfather.

The two men have never met. (Miles Park Romney had 30 children, which means Mitt Romney has scores of cousins.) And, based on what Park has been writing, he’s not likely to get a dinner invitation from Mitt anytime soon. “Gov. Romney has never heard of this person, and he doesn’t know him,” campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said....

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To: montag813
I heard Kris Kobach sometime this week on one of the local KC-Metro television stations say he is working on his own time for the Romney camp... What it really means, I have NO clue, given these days of mindless confusion and the perfection of deception.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/mitt-romneys-long-embrace-of-kris-kobach.php

101 posted on 02/03/2012 8:57:58 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Smiles won’t hide a pro-Romney, anti-Newt post.

Bishop Romney is the anti-conservative, this is good news that a victim of his cult is willing to come out and help us expose Romney’s cult.

Conservatives need as much insight into the Romneys and the Mormon cult, as possible, to stop him.


102 posted on 02/03/2012 9:01:00 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JimSEA; ansel12

Let me try to put this a different way.

I think that attacking a political candidate because some relative disagrees with them is, in general a silly argument.

I guess it is unfortunate that in this case, the person being attacked is Mitt Romney, because in the end I’m not really allowed to argue that the tactic is inappropriate, if it is used against Romney.

People had similar problems arguing that we shouldn’t be attacking candidates for making money and investing it and receiving investment income — I think that is a silly thing for a conservative to say, but because the target was Romney, I guess none of us was supposed to object to the line of attack.

So I apologize for saying something that would detract from making fun of Mitt Romney, especially since the story is about a guy who, apparently, has left the mormon faith, and is concerned about others in the mormon faith. I shouldn’t have compared HIM to ronnie reagan, for example (I wasn’t trying to attack Herman Cain’s wife either, like I said I was arguing against blaming candidates for their family members, not suggesting every such family member was a real problem. I’m guessing it’s OK to compare ronnie reagan and Gingrich’s ex-wife and Santorum’s wife’s ex-boyfriend, but that wasn’t my intention).


103 posted on 02/03/2012 9:04:20 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JimSEA

The Bishop is his religion, what we see is just a tiny portion of the man.

To know just how unacceptable and dangerous the anti-conservative is, we have to know who and what he is, and he is a powerful cult figure first, in his own eyes, perhaps even the fulfillment of prophecy in his cult, as some Mormons think he is.

We can afford to cover all of the man as political enthusiasts, we know that the Democrats will if he gets through the primary.


104 posted on 02/03/2012 9:07:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: txhurl

Sorry, I saw the 1st line, and immediately thought about how someome tried to attack Santorum a couple of weeks ago for something his wife did before they met, and her ex-boyfriend.

It was only after ansel12 attacked me that I realized the implication. He’s totally wrong that my post attacked Gingrich though — it was a defense of Gingrich and Santorum, against attacks using people from their family.

But this article was a lousy example to use as a launching point, because as I should have known and would have if I had read it, the story wasn’t some crazy cousin who was a hyper-devout mormon (yes, that’s what I thought I was reading), but in fact a guy who left the faith and is speaking out against it. Having totally screwed up my understanding of that (because as I said I only read the 1st sentence), what I wrote, which is exactly how I feel about the general type of smear attack, wasn’t applicable to the specifics of the article.

Which is why I apologized above.


105 posted on 02/03/2012 9:10:13 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ansel12

Too thick, either can’t see or doesn’t want to see.

The courting and converting of illegals explains all the RINOs gunning down Perry and siding with Romney. I couldn’t tie it together until now.

God help us if latinos in general are supporting mittens.


106 posted on 02/03/2012 9:14:05 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jim Robinson
I think that attacking a political candidate because some relative disagrees with them is, in general a silly argument.

You are a liar and a conman, this ex-Mormon has been hurt by Romney's cult, the man is speaking out against that cult.

This is about souls, and you mock it in service to Romney, as our most devoted Romney supporter at freerepublic you attack Reagan and Gingrich, and push Romney, man the pro-Romney routine never changes.

107 posted on 02/03/2012 9:14:13 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So nothing about this article, or the comments under it, alarms you about Romney?


108 posted on 02/03/2012 9:17:11 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Willie Mitty’s apostate cousin...

Oh noez

there goes the chance for families forever ...


109 posted on 02/03/2012 9:23:37 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Gov. Romney has never heard of this person, and he doesn’t know him,” campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said....
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I dont doubt it

White trash Willie Mitty is from the wrong side of the tracks...

Morally and ethically speaking...


110 posted on 02/03/2012 9:26:26 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: DJ MacWoW

the ancestor that was murdered by his 12th wife’s lawful husband.
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Parley P Pratt ???


111 posted on 02/03/2012 9:30:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

From the White House ‘insider’:
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-the-obama-plan-part-two/

Insider: None of this is beyond the norm though. Where it gets different for the Obama campaign is what I’ll just call the Obama Plan. They are going way beyond simply working up your typical campaign scenarios against potential opponents.
The president – I was told of this about a week ago, maybe two weeks ago…(pause)… the president actually considered quitting. He really did. But now he’s going on the attack. He wants to give a big F-You to White America – that’s actually one of his primary motivations.
You think the race card has been played up before? Just wait. 2012 is gonna be the most brutal political cycle we have ever witnessed. Ever.

Ulsterman: How? What’s the plan? What’s going to be different from all the other campaigns?

Insider: You’ve already seen it. A taste of it. Race. The race card. Racism. Race-race-race. It’s all they f**** got to run on these days.

Ulsterman: Race? Hasn’t Obama played that one out already? It’s become a joke.

Insider: Played it out? No, not…you might think so but no…his people are going to raise the issue of race to a level this country hasn’t seen since the Civil Rights movement.

Insider: EXACTLY. Don’t you understand it then? How race – that very thing that pulled his a$$ out of the fire back in 2008 – that’s the plan for 2012.
But even more of it. They got an entire plan to utilize it. Targeting certain states. A media campaign. Use it as a weapon against prospective opponents – the Romney people better be ready because he’s gonna get his a$$ kicked with the race issue and he won’t even see it coming. They better have their boy prepared for that…

Ulsterman: You really believe Barack Obama would go that far to win in 2012? He would be willing to engage in that kind of tactic? Just how far would he go?

Insider: (Pauses)… As far as it takes. We’re preparing for it. I sure as hell hope America is too. Like I told you…this election coming up…Brutal.

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Obama and the rats will use the Mormon’s history of racism against blacks to crucify him.

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112 posted on 02/03/2012 9:40:46 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happy bd, Vet!


113 posted on 02/03/2012 9:42:59 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: All
"His sentiments, unfortunately, are not fringe views: As my Post colleague Charles Lane pointed out recently, more than one in five Americans, Democrats and Republicans alike, tell Gallup they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon presidential candidate from their own party. And now we have Newt Gingrich flirting with that segment of the population on the stump: He’s calling for a defense of “our religions” and accusing Mitt Romney of discriminating against Catholics and Jews."
114 posted on 02/03/2012 9:46:04 PM PST by Irenic
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To: txhurl
My opposition to Romney is based on Romneycare and his support for things like raising the minimum wage.

I saw an article from a leftie, skimmed a sentence or two, thought it was about the opposite of what it was about, and jumped to a wrong conclusion.

I have read the article. I don't see what you are so incensed about regarding what I said relative to the article. The article is written by Dana Milbank. I think we are supposed to respect the man being talked about, but Dana Milbank calls the guy crazy.

And what am I to make of this from the article:

The gay rights group Pride in Utah has embraced him as a spokesman (“Mitt Romney’s Cousin Speaks Out”).

If I say I support park, am I going to get attacked for defending a gay spokesperson?

There are freepers here who have direct knowledge of the mormon faith, and I believe they are much better examples of the issues of that faith than this guy Dana Milbank drug out -- who the article says has never met Mitt Romney, and doesn't actually appear to be talking about anything specific that Mitt Romney did.

But I am simply not getting involved in the discussion of Mitt as a Bishop. I'm not attacking people for it, or discussing it, or saying anything about it. It's not something I want to get into in any way.

I just don't see how this left-wing article can become a rallying cry for anything. Here's a few more quotes from the article that I'm supposedly evil for not embracing:

There were Neil Bush’s S&L problems, Roger Clinton’s cocaine and Hugh Rodham’s pardons. ... As Meghan McCain can tell you, sharing a presidential candidate’s surname can be good for business. ... Richard Nixon’s brother Donald took a bailout from Howard Hughes
The article mentions a long list of various political personalities who had family members that were problems. In fact, Milbank mentions Obama's relatives, and then compares Park to them. Dana even noted that Romney brought up Obama's illegal uncle Omar. I couldn't tell if Dana was saying you shouldn't attack candidates for their family, or that you should, or was just being the typical crazy writer he always is.

Are you really going to rake me over the coals for not jumping to some conclusion about a column by DANA MILBANK? We regularly dismiss whatever Dana says, and even reading the entire article, I don't see it being a profound indictment of the cult of mormonism that you seem to think I'm not responding to strongly enough.

I defended Rick Perry when he was attacked because a pastor who introduced him had called Mormonism a cult. You should remember that, it was back when you were a Perry supporter, and people were getting on Perry for being associated with the pastor.

115 posted on 02/03/2012 9:46:25 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: patriot08

We have to get some data on latino support for mitt. Until this thread, I assumed no support but hadn’t looked, either.


116 posted on 02/03/2012 9:46:39 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

the other candidates shouldn’t be judged by their relatives
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I agree..

Just because Park Romney is a decent man doesnt mean we should assume his cousin Willard Mitt Romney is too...


117 posted on 02/03/2012 9:49:22 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: patriot08

Thank you!


118 posted on 02/03/2012 9:56:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
120 posted on 02/03/2012 10:00:30 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happy birthday aaaaannnnd many more!


121 posted on 02/03/2012 10:01:39 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Irenic

Well, it is important that Christians not put over themselves and our nation, an anti-Christian cult leader, who desires to be President of the United States ,to make it easier for his cult to convert Christians.

We need to support Newt Gingrich.


122 posted on 02/03/2012 10:05:10 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Thank you! Mrs. 2ndDivisionVet treated me to a really nice Key Lime Pie from a local bakery, like the one below.


123 posted on 02/03/2012 10:08:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And most of them FLDSers have the government support those kids. It’s kind of like communism in suspenders. Uncle Rulon. Uncle Mitt. You get the picture.


124 posted on 02/03/2012 10:09:57 PM PST by CT (Make Mine Newt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rmoney bump


125 posted on 02/03/2012 10:16:38 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- Mitt Rmoney)
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To: ansel12

I am definitely supporting Gingrich. I just happen to think Romney is the sneakiest of the sneaky, dirtiest, low down mean frat man there is.

He’s greasy-haired, wild eyed and older looking but I still see spoiled, rich, punk, frat boy— every time I look at him.

I certainly don’t begrudge wealth but sometimes money can ruin a person and I think it did Romney, something is missing in that man.

I think he believes he can buy his way into any and everything, that’s ruined, in my opinion. And he lies and denies like hades!


126 posted on 02/03/2012 10:18:03 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Tennessee Nana; Irenic

Thank you both!!


127 posted on 02/03/2012 10:22:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Irenic

What ruined Mitt is being a cultist, the Romneys immigrated here in 1841 as freshly converted Mormons, having been converted in England, they came to America to serve Joseph Smith.

For 171 years the Romney line has been devoted to Mormonism and is one of it’s most powerful, wealthiest families, the Bishop Romney, is weird because he is a cult leader, part of a 171 year line of a cult family.

Romney has been trained to lie by professional instructors, and was sent into the field to hone that talent with years of field practice. He has been doing it all of his life. Romney knows that he himself will become a God, it is his faith.


128 posted on 02/03/2012 10:32:12 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

February 4? Well, now it’s your birthday!


129 posted on 02/03/2012 10:49:26 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: rbmillerjr
The Dems will have One Billion to hack Romney into little pieces.
Romney will be balled up on the floor crying in his own urine.

And Yes GOP, that's my damned honest perception of Mittens. Freeking screwups.

130 posted on 02/03/2012 11:01:38 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: ansel12; Jim Robinson
FIRST: I apologize to all. I read "all articles", and once again I totally missed that this was a RELIGION thread. I apologize for that, and if removing ALL my comments is appropriate because of that, I'm fine with that. I assumed this was a political thread, because the article was clearly political.

Jim Robinson: Yes, Park Romney is an ex-mormon, and he is being used to attack Romney (kind of). But he is also called a spokesman for the Gay pride movement in Utah.

If you read the article, Milbank links to a page Mitt Romney’s Cousin Speaks Out On Gay Rights And Marriage with a podcast in which Park defends the homosexual lifestyle and attacks the mormon church for saying that LBGT people aren't born that way and are sinful and need to repent. Park Romney attacks the mormon church for not supporting the LGBT agenda.

I believe we SUPORT opposition to the LGBT agenda here at FR. I believe we would normally oppose and not speak well of a person who advocated for the homosexual agenda.

I feel like I'm being attacked because I didn't praise Park Romney and embrace his comments -- As Ansel12 said: "an ex-mormon has been hurt by Romney's cult, the man is speaking out against that cult."

But Park Romney was at an LBGT rally against the mormon church, Here is my poorly done quick transcript of Park's comments in the referenced podcast, speaking of LGBT people, where he attacks not just mormons, but all religions which oppose gay rights:

"There's a lot in the book that is relevant to the gay right's issues ... There are paradigms in religion .. that have us seeing and judging in ways that we don't see we are judging ... I appreciate the blindness [about LBGT issues\ because I was blind. ... I've been on the hard end of that road as an apostate. Once judged as evil, and then treated dismissively thereafter, that's a hard road [talking about LBGT people being judged]. "That's what was offensive about Packer's remarks ... the difficulty that I struggle with is that to love someone is to understand the reality of what they are ... I don't think love is legitimately claimed by those who choose not to see and accept the reality of what people really are [gay], and want to paint their own caractature of it." That's why I was ashamed of sitting on the side of the gay issues."

I ask: was I supposed to embrace an apologist for the gay agenda, because he also is an ex-mormon being used to attack Mitt Romney? I can feel bad for the guy being raised in a cult, and maybe that has warped his world view, but do I have to accept his attacks on churches for opposing the LBGT lifestyle, just because he is attacking the mormons specifically, and being used to attack Romney?

OK, to my comment: my comment did not deal in any way with mormonism, or Park. It was also political, and didn't belong therefore in a religion forum.

The article is a Washington Post article from Dana Milbank, a known leftie who loves to attack conservatives. So even though this time he took an indirect shot at Romney, his article, which I have now read, isn't written as an attack on Romney. To the extent you can make sense out of what Dana has written, it is an attempt to defend Obama from attacks related to his illegal immigrant relatives.

I saw Milbank's name, read the 1st sentence (before clicking on the article), clicked but missed the "religion" label, and figured Dana was going to make fun of a crazy cousin. I used three examples I KNEW conservatives would agree with me about to illustrate the problem with attacking people for their relatives. I apparently did so poorly.

Reagan was the first person I was able to vote for, and I did so proudly. Nobody should think I was really saying we shouldn't have voted for Ronald Reagan because he had Ronnie Reagan as a son. That was the point I made. My comment about Newt mentioned his ex-wife, whose attack was UNIVERSALLY condemned here. And I mentioned the attack on Santorum through his wife, which I condemned in the threads.

I apologize for not being more obvious, but I hope this clears up the confusion -- I was NOT attacking Ronald Reagan for ronnie, or Herman Cain for his wife, or Newt Gingrich for his ex-wife, or Santorum for his wife's ex-boyfriend. I'm sorry that another freeper believes that was my intent, but it wasn't.

I apologized already and apologize to you directly now for the fact that my comment could be seen as defending Romney. I don't think Dana Milbank attacking Mitt Romney for what Milbank calls a "wacky relative" is a particularly effective attack, and I am on record on principle as opposing guilt-by-association arguments, but because it IS Mitt Romney, I should have made it clear that my comments weren't specific to the case.

Since this is a religion thread, I'll refrain from discussing the political aspect of the article, except to note that in the end, the point of the article wasn't to attack Romney, but to defend Obama, Here's the relevant part of the article:

The Obamas have continued the tradition. When Onyango Obama was charged with drunk driving outside Boston last year, it became national news, even though the president had no contact with his “lost” Uncle Omar.
Here is Dana's real goal; to innoculate Obama of any responsibility for allowing his illegal uncle to stay in the country.
Among those calling publicly for the man’s deportation: Mitt Romney. Likewise, Zeituni Onyango’s immigration case — unknown to her nephew Barack — became big news days before his election in 2008.
Again, Dana is defending Obama, this time for his other illegal alien relative.

Clearly, I screwed up because this was a religion thread, and therefore had nothing to do with the point of the article.

131 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:24 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT (There are none so blind as those who miss the forum name)
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To: ansel12

I didn’t know all that.

I just know I don’t want Obama or Romney for president.

I want Gingrich to out-fox team Romney and this Mormon angle seems like a snare.

Maybe I am wrong but I just hope Gingrich doesn’t tread there.


132 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:36 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Graybeard58

Of course he is. He wants to be a god of another planet someday.


133 posted on 02/03/2012 11:09:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thank you for keeping your post short, and not making it about you, and not twisting it into yet again, a defense for Romney.


134 posted on 02/03/2012 11:11:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

I’m going to say thank you for that response. I think you were either poking fun at me, or being too kind, in saying I made my post short, but that’s OK, I do write verbosely.

And again, I’m sorry for wandering into a religion thread. I’ve really been trying to avoid these.


135 posted on 02/03/2012 11:15:43 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good grief.

You will NEVER learn!


136 posted on 02/03/2012 11:16:15 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Irenic

Yeah, candidates themselves can’t do a lot of the things that need to be done, Gingrich will pretty much stay away from religion, but others can sure bring it to the public’s attention.


137 posted on 02/03/2012 11:19:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: mardi59; ansel12
To: ansel12

ansel12, I feel so sorry for you. You can say what you will but it is still a cult.

You haven't been around very long if you think ansel12 is not knowledgeable about mormonism. Pay attention please.

138 posted on 02/03/2012 11:22:03 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58; mardi59

We got that sorted out, everything is fine, it was just reading to quickly.


139 posted on 02/03/2012 11:23:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: txhurl
This is ALARMING but only us on FR will ever hear about it.

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Yep, because only freepers ever read the Washington Post.

140 posted on 02/03/2012 11:31:55 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: reaganaut

Do they each have their own prophet or is this guy the head of all the mormons?

And where does the title of bishop fit in? Does he hand down that title to one of his sons - or he has to fetch his own? Is it bought through donations? Are the younger generation attracted to this cult?

I feel like I’m having a nightmare since ‘08. Can you wake me up. Maybe I need a zot. ;)


141 posted on 02/04/2012 4:12:25 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: montag813

WOW!


142 posted on 02/04/2012 4:25:44 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT
the conservative candidates should not be rejected because they have someone from their past that doesn’t like them

Well, this is about Mitt, so it's not a conservative candidate. And he's not from his past - the article states they never met. It's not about not liking him but telling us mormonism is a cult and romney would be compromised.

143 posted on 02/04/2012 4:37:46 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Why are you making a big deal about his cousin Park who is defending the homosexual lifestyle since you are supporting Romney who is pro gay marriage? You and Park are on the same page in that regard. No? Both pro homo.


144 posted on 02/04/2012 5:22:19 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yes. That’s the one. Parley Pratt.


145 posted on 02/04/2012 6:40:45 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Aw! She loves ya! Enjoy your day!!

Happy Birthday!!!

146 posted on 02/04/2012 6:46:46 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: CT

I didn’t know that. That certainly presents a “mind” picture too.


147 posted on 02/04/2012 6:47:42 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You wanted to know “is Park Romney a decent man?”

Not knowing him I would contrast him to his cousin Willard Mitt Romney...

Since the article is about both of them..

Is Willard Mitt Romney a decent man?


148 posted on 02/04/2012 7:04:47 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney I like firing people......and IÂ’m not concerned about the very poor.)
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Do they each have their own prophet or is this guy the head of all the mormons?

And where does the title of bishop fit in? Does he hand down that title to one of his sons - or he has to fetch his own? Is it bought through donations? Are the younger generation attracted to this cult?

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There is only one prophet at a time for the LDS. He is head of all the LDS church and is believed to be the sucessor of Jesus Christ by having the ‘keys to the Kingdom’. After the prophet dies, the member of the council of the twelve apostles who has the most seniority becomes the next prophet. However, the apostles are also referred to as prophets, but “the Prophet” always refers to the President of the Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or to Joseph Smith.

In the LDS church, a “Bishop” is the same as a pastor. They only use the term while they hold the office (usually about 2 years). Above each bishop (who is in charge of the local congregations), is a “Stake President” who is in charge of several congregations (or wards as they call them). Romney was also a Stake President. No title is passed on from parent to child. You become a “Bishop” by being ‘called’ by the Stake president to lead a congregation. It is unpaid and is basically a second full time job. There are a lot of complaints about the amount of time that being a bishop takes and it dragging men away from their families by time constraints. However, it is also a position of authority so that outweighs the time constraints (keeping up with the Jones’ mentality).

Regarding young people, they are often recruited because they are going through periods of life transition, moving out, getting married, going to college, etc and are often looking for something. Also, the LDS social life is very attractive to the youth and sadly most are looking for religion rather than Christ or they equate the two.

Mormonism has a built in social life. However, the internet has been changing that and conversions are WAY down.


149 posted on 02/04/2012 8:05:19 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So you think Axelrod is warming up to a race against Gingrich?


150 posted on 02/04/2012 8:50:02 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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