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Faith still sticky issue as Romney mulls run: Mormonism remains hard sell for Evangelicals
Boston Globe ^ | July 3, 2010 | Sasha Issenberg

Posted on 07/03/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by Colofornian

WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney and his strategists expected his Mormon faith to fade as an issue for fundamentalist Christians during his first presidential campaign. This time around, should he choose to run again, they have doubts.

...But even as the national Republican establishment warms to Romney as never before, the former candidate and his closest aides now believe a group of voters will always be off-limits because of his religion.

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In Iowa, three-fifths of caucus-goers considered themselves “born-again or evangelical Christian,’’ according to a survey, taken for a media consortium as voters entered the caucuses.

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More than one-third of caucus-goers said a candidate’s religion matters a “great deal,’’ and Huckabee won more than 56 percent of their votes.

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Religious scholars have long debated the extent to which Mormonism is compatible with traditional Christian teachings...

“The question is whether a particular church-going Christian is willing to set those differences aside as irrelevant to holding the office of president, or take them quite seriously as heretical and cultish,’’ said James F. Gimpel, a University of Maryland political scientist who informally advised George W. Bush’s 2004 reelection campaign. “There are a great many evangelical Christians who would have a hard time justifying a vote for Romney under any circumstances.’’

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...In his best-selling book “No Apology,’’ published this spring, Romney mentioned his Mormon roots only in passing, and the two page section on “Belief and Purpose’’ strives for a common language that is secular and civic rather than theological.

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“I think for most Americans they’re not terribly concerned about someone’s religious beliefs, unless of course it relates to their love of the country or something like that,’’ Romney said in the interview...

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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To: Colofornian
It's nice Reno, that you could, after all, find a "buddy-buddy" on this thread...even if you had to resort to linking arms with a Buddhist who dedicated his FReeper home page to unnamed "omniscient...sentient beings."

Once again you ignore the rules and make it personal. Apparently you have a special dispensation in that regard.

321 posted on 07/05/2010 3:14:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye; Colofornian

and you are now the net nanny here now


322 posted on 07/05/2010 3:25:00 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

I am answering replies to me. What are you doing?


323 posted on 07/05/2010 3:34:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Godzilla
You're actually pretty funny. Several other posters have cut-and-pasted the rules to me or quoted them, then ignored them, and you call me a "net nanny." lol

Not to mention that you can be found quoting rules and pinging the Religion Moderator to someone else on another thread. There's a word for that ...

324 posted on 07/05/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye; ejonesie22; Godzilla; greyfoxx39
I have read every post on this thread now and haven't seen one that took up that cause. Please ping me to that post.

Sorry. (I didn't want you to think that we were overlooking our advocacy): Tibet Is No Shangri-La And the Dalai Lama is not what you think (from a foreign policy publication by the same name -- just posted on FR!)

FReepers, feel free to post away!

325 posted on 07/05/2010 4:03:16 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: TigersEye
Once again you ignore the rules and make it personal. Apparently you have a special dispensation in that regard.

(Well,I'd hope that your public personal beliefs were, after all, personal...well, at least you might be of the Buddhist variety that believes in personal god(s)...vs. the millions who don't.)

326 posted on 07/05/2010 4:08:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
FOREIGN POLICY is published by the Slate Group, a division of Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive, LLC

One of the most liberal publications around is your source? It is strange that none of the Tibetan-born lamas I have met ever have any complaints about the DL or the former, now long-dead, government in Lhasa. Could be because Tibetans in Khams and Amdo basically ignored and laughed at efforts to tax them.

I see you're still ignoring the "don't make it personal" rule at your pleasure.

327 posted on 07/05/2010 4:14:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Colofornian
I don't know of any Buddhists that believe that gods are anything but another form of sentient being subject to birth, sickness, old age and death. Certainly not Tibetan Buddhists. But you're the religious expert here so you can inform us all about it. lol

Well,I'd hope that your public personal beliefs were, after all, personal

I didn't bring up my Buddhist views you did.

328 posted on 07/05/2010 4:17:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye

That right, it is the mod’s job to manage things here, not yours. Oh, and there is probably a word for that too.


329 posted on 07/05/2010 4:35:32 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Where have I tried to manage anything here? As with the several other requests to back up such claims I expect {{{crickets chirping}}} from you too.

If I were really a "net nanny" I would point out your inability to use capital letters, no punctuation, lousy spelling and lower-than-grade-school-level grammar. lol

330 posted on 07/05/2010 4:38:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Colofornian

Polytheist of a feather...


331 posted on 07/05/2010 5:32:55 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: TigersEye

You’re the only person in Tibet?


332 posted on 07/05/2010 5:35:10 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Godzilla
Zen and the art of forum etiquette...

You'll notice it when your cursor make a little arrow shape...

333 posted on 07/05/2010 5:41:53 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: T Minus Four

I truly pray for the bipolar anti’s


334 posted on 07/05/2010 5:50:12 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Godzilla; TigersEye
Hum..

A polytheistic Tibetan Buddhist from Colorado who called another poster a kook up thread is complaining that folks are making things personal (though they aren't really)

There is the makings of a good bar joke in there...

T-eye I am curious, from what I know of Buddhism they are supposed to be one with the universe and always aware of things around them. So how come you did not realize you were on the religion forum...

May want to delay that Zen archery demonstration if you have one planned...

335 posted on 07/05/2010 5:55:07 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: TigersEye
If I were really a "net nanny" I would point out your inability to use capital letters, no punctuation, lousy spelling and lower-than-grade-school-level grammar. lol

Don't say things like that; it just makes you sound stupid. In fact, don't talk at all. It just makes you sound stupid.

336 posted on 07/05/2010 5:56:16 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; TigersEye
Hum..

A polytheistic Tibetan Buddhist from Colorado who called another poster a kook up thread is complaining that folks are making things personal (though they aren't really)

There is the makings of a good bar joke in there...

T-eye I am curious, from what I know of Buddhism they are supposed to be one with the universe and always aware of things around them. So how come you did not realize you were on the religion forum...

May want to delay that Zen archery demonstration if you have one planned...

337 posted on 07/05/2010 5:57:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Godzilla

Too late...


338 posted on 07/05/2010 6:00:42 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: TigersEye
I didn't bring up my Buddhist views you did.

(That's funny. I could have sworn that "TigersEye" pops up every time you enter a post on a thread. And that if someone even accidentally clicked on your name...a page pops up...and that if anybody even accidentally read a few lines on that page...Buddhism fills their eyes...but other than that, perhaps you should bring up a complaint somewhere that somebody is impersonating you on your home page, initiating discussion about your personal beliefs)

339 posted on 07/05/2010 6:10:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: ejonesie22; TigersEye
You’re the only person in Tibet?

I'm telling you; you're on a roll! LOL

340 posted on 07/05/2010 6:12:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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