Debate Terminates Arnold

SEPT 24 2003 | tomasUSMC

[TomasUSMC]

Tom wins Recall Debate. Camejo a close number 2. Bustamonte way back in third. Arnold and Ariana locked in death wrestling match dead last.

Tom crushed the competition today, well everyone except for the green party guy who kept repeating something that for some reason no one could counter - that the rich in California pay a lower tax rate than the rest. Humm. Some of the knockout hammer slaps issued by Tom where, for example, the ONLY statement opposing Illegal immigration- " .. we have millions willing to abide by our immigration laws but, Illegal Immigration is tantamount to cutting in line. Another crushing blow by Tom was:" People are taking their families and companies from beautiful California to the middle of the desert because of the Davis administration. Wow. He was the only one who even pronouned the words Pro Life, all the others where silent, except for Bustamonte who stated he was pro-choice. And then putting the last nail in Arnolds coffin, Tom stated in his closing remarks: He was the only one to pledge - No tax increase and also to cut spending.

Arnold showed complete disrespect to the debate process. Constantly interrupting Bustamonte and Arianna and engaging in Personal attacks on both of them. (Clearly Arianna attacked him personally also.) Arianna stated it well, "Ok Arnold, lets see which person with a foreign accent can speak loudest." If he thinks he'll be able to shout down all of them in Sacramento, he's nuts. During one of the Arnold/huffington skirmishes, Adriana told Arnold that is much ballyhood Help the Children Program that Arnold helped pass was nothing but a publicity stunt because it was not funded. Arnold then cut his own throat by replying that the bill had a spending trigger that would only activate once the budget woes were taken care of. Well, that means that his precious little bill will never get a cent! If he felt so strongly about the chlildren he would not have supported that spending trigger.

Its clear all the media is for Arnold. He was the only one given time after the debate on all the channels to explain how he felt after the debate. And Arnold may have realized he had not done well when he said that he hoped to work with Tom in Sacramento. That's if Tom will have him.

[ambrose]

Nope. Arnold won on style, Tom won on substance.

[CheneyChick]

I think I will agree with you.

Cheers, CC :)

[BunnySlippers]

Another non-Californian for McClinton. Welcome Governor Schwarenegger.

[pogo101]

You should put "Vanity" somewhere in the headline. Nothing wrong (unofficially) with posting the occasional vanity post; just label it as such in the headline. Otherwise, FReepers take it that some published article out there carries that headline, and that you're just reprinting it here.

[ambrose]

Think you might give a rest to your nasty vitriol for at least one evening? Both of our respective candidates stuck to the issues and were civil with one another. Perhaps it is time to emulate them?

[68 grunt]

Yep!

[pogo101]

Nope. Arnold won on style, Tom won on substance.

I'm going to shock de world by being a bit more pro-McClintock (on this specific issue) than you.

I think they both did reasonably well on style. Tom was his sober, if uncharismatic, self. Arnold had higher highs, but he had lower lows too.

And of course Tom won on substance, as he has been doing all the while. :)

[isthisnickcool]

So, how much money are you willing to bet that Mcclintock wins? Anyone?

[68 grunt]

Just let it be. Let's set the example of unity.

[Soliton]

I'm not that good with faces, but all this time I've been confusing Dean and McClintock.

I hope Bustamante wins. It will serve California right for all the cr*p they've dumped onthe other states.

[pogo101]

Noooooooo! Don't wish Cruz on us! Mercy!

[TomasUSMC]

okay, sorry bout that. Give me a mail on that so I can make sure I understand that. God bless ya.

[MJY1288]

McClintock can hardly be compared to Clinton, I'm a "non-Californian" who thinks McClintock would serve California extremely well, but considering the history of Californians electing moderates, Arnold will win if McClintock bows out. If Tom McClintock doesn't bow out, Bustamante will win

[autoresponder]

Interesting that CNN gave so much post debate time to Ah-Noldt

Another said all the other channels did the same

[pogo101]

Oh it's no biggie. I don't even know that it's a rule. If I find out some official info, I'll PM you, though. Nite.

[Williams]

Dear all: The mere fact that you are discussing the pros and cons of the TWO republican candidates means we are DEAD. Have fun debating Tom vs. Arnold right up to the Bustamante victory.
We can not afford to have the republican primary in the general election. It won't work in any state.

[vbmoneyspender]

I'm a McClintock supporter but I gotta say that I liked it when Schwarzenegger went after Huffington. The only problem I had with him going after Huffington is that I wish Schwarzenegger would have defended Bush when Huffington was blaming our problems on Bush (btw, I thought McClintock should have made some comment in defense of Bush as well). It seems to me that when Huffington tried to blame our problems on Bush this presented an opening for Schwarzenegger to say that our state has been run by Democrats for 5 years and they have run it into the toilet, whereas other states haven't been run by Democrats and they have done just fine with Bush as President.

[w_over_w]

Number one, thank you for your service to our country.

Number two isn't it wonderful that we live in a country that people can express their different perspectives of a political event?

The big loser tonight was Gray Davis (as well it should be) . . . talk about everyone agreeing the State is in utter failure. Next, I would say that if Cruz "Bustamove" wanted to rise above the frey, all he accomplished was being a passive "church sitter" that mumbles agreements with the one giving the speech.

Ariana came across as an arrogent imbecile . . . I couldn't figure out what her beef was with Bush and quite frankly Auhnold was very astute to point out that she belongs in New Hampshire (or perhaps one of the Planets that Davis says we all came from).

Camejo wants to "sock it to the rich" and remind us of Enron. Great, that'll get a lot of traction.

Finally, Auhnold and Tom. Want to know who won? Watch what happens with endorsements in the next few days . . . that's your benchmark. We can rah-rah all night but when Simon, Uberroth and important Calif. Republican's give their endorsments in the next few days (and they WILL!), then we'll know. Otherwise, I don't see Tom cutting into Auhnolds poll numbers or vice versa. IMHO.

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