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It's Time To Tell NASCAR How We Feel About Toyota
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Posted on 06/04/2003 9:45:23 AM PDT by Provost-Marshal
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To: Provost-Marshal
Bill Davis Racing is being sued by Dodge for giving trade secrets to Toyoda.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:47:03 AM PDT
by
aomagrat
(IYAOYAS)
To: aomagrat
That's "Toyota" sutpid!!!!
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:47:35 AM PDT
by
aomagrat
(IYAOYAS)
To: Provost-Marshal
NASCAR runs exhibition races in Japan, Toyota builds cars in the US, and you haven't been able to race an off the showroom car you welded a roll cage into since the 70's. Who cares if they call the purpose built race car a Toyota, because it was supposed to look vaugely like one?
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:48:42 AM PDT
by
NYFriend
To: Provost-Marshal
The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:49:33 AM PDT
by
AdamSelene235
(Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
To: aomagrat
It's Time To Tell NASCAR How We Feel About ToyotaO'what a feeling!
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:55:33 AM PDT
by
Lockbox
To: AdamSelene235
I doubt I will ever buy another brand other than Toyota. My Lexus is a dream ride and the Sienna is our reliable family "workhorse", my wife's first choice of whatever she wants for a car (with two kids.)
As far as "American" cars, it's impossible for me to track just what part of them are American anymore. Between plants being outsourced to Mexico and Canada or some other forsaken country, who knows where it's really from. Most are garbage anyway, Ford sticking out in my mind recently. Many Japanese brands are assembled here in the states now, most likely to evade further expense and taxes.
I don't know what the story is behind NASCAR, but if it's a "private party" they should permit who they want and no one else should have a say.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:56:08 AM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
To: Provost-Marshal
Hey, if Japan can handle a Hawaiian Sumo wrestler (who is quite a champion, as I recall), then I think the American ego can handle a Toyota stock car, even if it wins races.
To: AdamSelene235
Toyota has been competing in the Nascar Trucks series for several years. WW2 was more than 50 years ago. I think we can have sporting competition with Japan, which has been a better friend than many countries in the intervening period. People like to root for their "brand" at these races. Toyota is a larger brand than Dodge in the USA now, has lots of factories and employees here.
Welcome to Talledega guys! May the best car win!
To: Provost-Marshal
It's bad enough foreign drivers are brought in as ringers for the un-NASCAR like road courses, but if this is true, I say...
BOYCOTT NASCAR
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:58:53 AM PDT
by
eBelasco
To: Provost-Marshal
Doesn't seem plausible that Toyota would need to reverse engineer a NASCAR racing car.
That said, having Toyota in NASCAR would give me another car to root against beside Chevy. Kinda like rooting against a villain in the movies or the "masked" wrestler in the WWE.
BTW. Recently looked at buying a Toyota Sequoia, full-size SUV.
It is made in Indiana.
I am looking for SUV's that have a GVW over 6000 lbs. The new tax law says it can be written off entirely in the first 12 months?
To: Provost-Marshal
What a stupid letter.
I wonder how many NASCAR fans in the south are employed by Toyota? What a nice way of calling all us NASCAR fans racists, still bitter about Pearl Harbor. Allowing Toyota into NASCAR will be a ratings bonanza, creating new rivalries and adding spectators. This is not the time for NASCAR fans to reinforce the stereotype of us being nothing more than racist, beer swilling hicks.
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posted on
06/04/2003 9:59:22 AM PDT
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Caipirabob
And just like Ford with Mazda(and I believe Saab and Volvo!) there is a great deal of partnership with foreign companies to the point where they are being called "stateless corporations."
A Ford could be made in some other place, while a Mazda is made somewhere in the South. Same with Toyotas. I forget who owns a large part of Toyota stock.
Anyways, it's pointless and WW II was 60 years ago. Sorry, should Vietnamese or Chinese not buy American products because we fought a war with them?
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:01:14 AM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: NYFriend
you haven't been able to race an off the showroom car you welded a roll cage into since the 70's. And that is why I rarely watch NASCAR anymore. It's almost become a poser sport what with the flashy jacjets and such. Remember Maria Carey in that (insulting and gawdawful to me) poser driver's suit at Daytona this year?
I hate to see Toyota enter but like you said, they ain't stock cars anymore.
Or moonrunner's cars to be more precise.
prisoner6
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:02:44 AM PDT
by
prisoner6
( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
To: Provost-Marshal; AdamSelene235
Look - Ford sold me a junk 3.8 liter engine (
Ford 3.8L Head Gasket Trouble) and flipped me off when I called them on it. $1500 clams later, I bought Toyota, and they've taken good care of me.
When Toyota had a potentially similar problem (engine oil "sludge"), they actually sent me a letter explaining it in English, not lawyerspeak.
If American auto companies want to play the lying game, they can bark at the moon.
To: Provost-Marshal; Pukin Dog
Just wait until the first Japanese NASCAR driver hits the circuit, and we are asked to believe that "Hideki Nakatomi" is actually Japanese for "Junior Johnson."
LOL.
To: AdamSelene235
The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny Nice to hear that ---- we're looking a a truck for our son, and are wavering between a Ford Ranger and a Toyota...
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:04:13 AM PDT
by
coder2
To: Provost-Marshal
Is racing about character, hard work, and what happens on the track today - or the color of your skin, who your grandparents were, and what happened 60 years ago?
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:04:39 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: Provost-Marshal
Is this that thing where they paste detergent ads on taxis and drive them around in circles?
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:04:44 AM PDT
by
IowaHawk
To: Provost-Marshal
Furthermore, if I want to watch a bunch of foreign cars driven by foreign drivers, I'll watch that ridiculous procession they call Formula1 (which I don't).
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posted on
06/04/2003 10:06:02 AM PDT
by
eBelasco
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