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The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 9:49:33 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
I doubt I will ever buy another brand other than Toyota. My Lexus is a dream ride and the Sienna is our reliable family "workhorse", my wife's first choice of whatever she wants for a car (with two kids.)

As far as "American" cars, it's impossible for me to track just what part of them are American anymore. Between plants being outsourced to Mexico and Canada or some other forsaken country, who knows where it's really from. Most are garbage anyway, Ford sticking out in my mind recently. Many Japanese brands are assembled here in the states now, most likely to evade further expense and taxes.

I don't know what the story is behind NASCAR, but if it's a "private party" they should permit who they want and no one else should have a say.

7 posted on 06/04/2003 9:56:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AdamSelene235
Toyota has been competing in the Nascar Trucks series for several years. WW2 was more than 50 years ago. I think we can have sporting competition with Japan, which has been a better friend than many countries in the intervening period. People like to root for their "brand" at these races. Toyota is a larger brand than Dodge in the USA now, has lots of factories and employees here.

Welcome to Talledega guys! May the best car win!

9 posted on 06/04/2003 9:58:37 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: AdamSelene235
The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny

Nice to hear that ---- we're looking a a truck for our son, and are wavering between a Ford Ranger and a Toyota...

17 posted on 06/04/2003 10:04:13 AM PDT by coder2
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To: AdamSelene235
The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny.

Ditto's

My 96' ford Ranger pickup with the 1970's vintage 2.3 liter engine ford didn't bother redesigning for modern gas started pinging at 17k miles. fords "fix" was to pull out a jumper in the wiring harness that caused the computer to retard the timing, reducing power and decreasing gas mileage. As far as I'm concerned, ford knew pinging would start, as demonstrated by the fact they provided the jumper, so claims on HP and Mileage by the factory were fraudulent, as they couldn't be maintained for over 20k miles.

My Toyota now has 98k miles, and runs perfectly. I expect to see 300k before I sell it.

And I'll never buy a ford with fraudulent engineering again. f'ing crooks.

39 posted on 06/04/2003 10:20:35 AM PDT by narby (Rachael Carson: History's biggest mass murderer)
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To: AdamSelene235
I've had the same experience. My old Toyota car had the distributor fail after the warranty expired. Cost $300 to repair. Later got a letter from Toyota stating they had a bad batch and wanted me to bring it in for checking. They reimbursed me the full $300.

My Chevy pickup had the engine fail at 50k miles. When I called a dealer and asked about cost and if they had replacements in stock, he replied that they had the engine, since they replace a lot of them. I told him that I know, they fail a lot, and will Chevy pay to replace it. He laughed - I didn't.

The difference in service between the Japanese and American companies is huge. But I think it is getting better. Just not good enough.
139 posted on 06/04/2003 12:00:16 PM PDT by RussRoberts
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To: AdamSelene235
Agreed. I've had my Toyota for 12 years and 146,000 later, it still looks and runs good. If Toyota wants in NASCAR, let them. A new competitor may spark some excitement in the sport.
195 posted on 06/05/2003 6:05:13 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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To: AdamSelene235
We have a 1987 Nissan Pathfinder that just runs and runs. It has almost 250,000 miles and we're keeping it.

OTOH the 2002 Ford F-150 is nothing but trouble. The bright smily Ford customer service means nothing when I have to keep taking it in for stupid stuff and wasting my time!

202 posted on 08/30/2003 7:49:12 PM PDT by eleni121
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