It's Time To Tell NASCAR How We Feel About Toyota

http://insiderracingnews.com/dt060403.html ^

[Palmetto]

It's simply a different type of racing that requires a different skill set. F1 has by far the most technology, and as an engineer I love to see it, but I really do get tired of seeing that parade of qualifying laps that are passed on as races in F1 now. To what extent driver aides should be done away with I'm not certain, but I think that there is too much in today's F1 car, making comparisons difficult, and competition all about money.

NASCAR is the other end of the spectrum. Competition amongst makers is artificially enforced, and easier to do with yesterday's technology. A case can be made that it's a better show - which it is, to someone who wants to see close racin' and controverisal finishes. It's not a good show to someone who wants to see tomorrow's technology and hear what 19000 rpm sounds like.

To each his own. I can appreciate both. But what I really LOVE to see is NASCAR on road courses. It's a blast to watch.

[brewcrew]

How about if we just destroy the rail industry and replace it with millions of trucks and truckers. Now that's a labor intensive, job intensive, expensive way to move things around a hugh country like this.

It is hugh. And vey, vey series.

[eBelasco]

but F1 attracts more fans
Sorry to interrupt, tacticlogic...
And Clinton got elected twice, and more people watch soccer than baseball.

[Pukin Dog]

Oh, I dont know. I love F-1, and I love NASCAR. A racing fan can find reasons to love both. I fear for the future of NASCAR, because the regulations are choking it. It needs to be as wild and wooly as possible, with the expection that occasionally, someone is going to get killed, just like in F-1 racing.

NASCAR has over-reacted from Dale's death, and is taking the fun out of things. I want to see passing in the grass again. F-1 just keeps getting better and better, if you ask me.

[tacticalogic]

Sure, but F1 attracts more fans, makes more money, has a bigger following, has more technology, faster cars, and better drivers.

And this has exactly what to do with Toyota building cars for NASCAR?

[Palmetto]

Getting your hands on a gullwing would set you back about a cool mill these days. And I definitely wouldn't auto-x one!!

[brewcrew]

That is a SWEET ride! One of my first cars was a '74 Catalina I bought from my grandpa, who took very good care of it. His grandson didn't, however. Boy, I miss that car.

[Palmetto]

I think you put Senna in Michael's Ferrari, and Michael is toasted

Possible. When I watched Senna race, I knew at the time I was watching the best. Unfortunately, the inevitable comparisons will have to be argued and left unsettled. But i think everyone can agree that they are both in very elite company.

[tacticalogic]

Oh, I dont know. I love F-1, and I love NASCAR. A racing fan can find reasons to love both.

Agreed, but the article and the thread are specific to NASCAR. If I want to talk about F1 racing, I'll find a thread about it, or start one.

[Guillermo]

Did NASCAR say they were going to change all (or any) of the rules?

I guess the effect on MLB has been negative since the rise of Japanese players in the bigs...

[eBelasco]

Once NASCAR brings in foreign manufacturers, it is a different sport. I think the better analogy is "has MLB benefitted from expanding to include foreign teams?"

[Provost-Marshal]

When you get right down to it, I don't mind Jap cars, since they haven't betrayed us in quite a while. But if they ever allow Euroweenie-mobiles to race, I'm going back to monster trucks.

[Guillermo]

Are Fords made in Mexico less foreign than Toyotas made in Tennessee? How about the BMW's made in South Carolina or the Mercedes' made in Alabama? Are they more foreign than the Jeeps made in Canada?

[eBelasco]

Whether they are or aren't, NASCAR, IMO, is about the big three automakers facing off against each other. If I want to watch Toyota, BMW, Mercedes, etc racing, I'll watch a different racing league.

[m1911]

Heaven help me, I actually like Mustang IIs...

Not mine, but I like it.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Oh, its basic appearance was OK, but when we get into the cheap metal, the cheap vinyl, the crappy motor, the rattles, the lack of power, etc., it gets really crappy.

[Guillermo]

So they lose you, and gain a few Japanese fans.

Like I said earlier...net gain for NASCAR.

[Guillermo]

They're too busy trying to catch up to Ferrari in F1.

[Guillermo]

They're too busy trying to catch up to Ferrari in F1.

[eBelasco]

Yes, my loss to NASCAR would be a net gain for them. They don't need xenophobic fans like me, clearly.
Can't wait to see the Bodines driving the Hello Kitty cars though.