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Appeasing Hitler and Saddam: A witness remembers.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | Thursday, February 20, 2003 | By Alistair Cooke

Posted on 02/19/2003 11:21:14 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Appeasing Hitler and Saddam
By Alistair Cooke
BBC News | February 20, 2003


I promised to lay off topic A - Iraq - until the Security Council makes a judgment on the inspectors' report and I shall keep that promise.  But I must tell you that throughout the past fortnight I've listened to everybody involved in or looking on to a monotonous din of words, like a tide crashing and receding on a beach - making a great noise and saying the same thing over and over.  And this ordeal triggered a nightmare - a day-mare, if you like.  Through the ceaseless tide I heard a voice, a very English voice of an old man - Prime Minister Chamberlain saying: "I believe it is peace for our time" - a sentence that prompted a huge cheer, first from a listening street crowd and then from the House of Commons and next day from every newspaper in the land.  There was a move to urge that Mr. Chamberlain should receive the Nobel Peace Prize.  In Parliament there was one unfamiliar old grumbler to growl out: "I believe we have suffered a total and unmitigated defeat." He was, in view of the general sentiment, very properly booed down.  This scene concluded in the autumn of 1938 the British prime minister's effectual signing away of most of Czechoslovakia to Hitler.  The rest of it, within months, Hitler walked in and conquered.  "Oh dear," said Mr. Chamberlain, thunderstruck.  "He has betrayed my trust."

During the last fortnight a simple but startling thought occurred to me -- every single official, diplomat, president, prime minister involved in the Iraq debate was in 1938 a toddler, most of them unborn.  So the dreadful scene I've just drawn will not have been remembered by most listeners.  Hitler had started betraying our trust not 12 years but only two years before, when he broke the First World War peace treaty by occupying the demilitarised zone of the Rhineland.  Only half his troops carried one reload of ammunition because Hitler knew that French morale was too low to confront any war just then and 10 million of 11 million British voters had signed a so-called peace ballot.  It stated no conditions, elaborated no terms, it simply counted the numbers of Britons who were "for peace."  The slogan of this movement was "Against war and fascism"  - chanted at the time by every Labour man and Liberal and many moderate Conservatives - a slogan that now sounds as imbecilic as "against hospitals and disease."  In blunter words a majority of Britons would do anything, absolutely anything, to get rid of Hitler except fight him.  At that time the word preemptive had not been invented, though today it's a catchword.  After all the Rhineland was what it said it was - part of Germany.  So to march in and throw Hitler out would have been preemptive - wouldn't it?

Nobody did anything and Hitler looked forward with confidence to gobbling up the rest of Western Europe country by country - "course by course," as growler Churchill put it.

I bring up Munich and the mid-30s because I was fully grown, on the verge of 30, and knew we were indeed living in the age of anxiety.  And so many of the arguments mounted against each other today, in the last fortnight, are exactly what we heard in the House of Commons debates and read in the French press.  The French especially urged, after every Hitler invasion, "negotiation, negotiation."  They negotiated so successfully as to have their whole country defeated and occupied.  But as one famous French leftist said: "We did anyway manage to make them declare Paris an open city - no bombs on us!"

In Britain the general response to every Hitler advance was disarmament and collective security.  Collective security meant to leave every crisis to the League of Nations.  It would put down aggressors, even though, like the United Nations, it had no army, navy or air force.  The League of Nations had its chance to prove itself when Mussolini invaded and conquered Ethiopia (Abyssinia).  The League didn't have any shot to fire.

But still the cry was chanted in the House of Commons - the League and collective security is the only true guarantee of peace.  But after the Rhineland the maverick Churchill decided there was no collectivity in collective security and started a highly unpopular campaign for rearmament by Britain, warning against the general belief that Hitler had already built an enormous mechanised army and superior air force.

But he's not used them, he's not used them - people protested.  Still for two years before the outbreak of the Second War you could read the debates in the House of Commons and now shiver at the famous Labour men - Major Attlee was one of them - who voted against rearmament and still went on pointing to the League of Nations as the saviour.

Now, this memory of mine may be totally irrelevant to the present crisis.  It haunts me.  I have to say I have written elsewhere with much conviction that most historical analogies are false because, however strikingly similar a new situation may be to an old one, there's usually one element that is different and it turns out to be the crucial one.  It may well be so here.

All I know is that all the voices of the 30s are echoing through 2003. . . .




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Thursday, February 20, 2003

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1 posted on 02/19/2003 11:21:14 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
good post
2 posted on 02/19/2003 11:29:38 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: JohnHuang2
Alastair Cooke.... ahhh that brings back memories of his excellent BBC series on America made back in the 1970s and his subsequent role as host for PBS' Masterpiece Theater. Among Brits, he has a fondness and appreciation for America that's a rarity in Europe. I always thought Cooke was a class act and that rare gentleman but this article shows what an Americaphile he is considering how trendy America-bashing today is in the U.K and Europe. All in all his comments on the 1930s illustrate just how history seems to repeat itself except one hopes that this time in this blessed country we've taken its lessons to heart.
3 posted on 02/19/2003 11:30:07 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: JohnHuang2
Those who refuse to learn from History are condemned to relive it.
4 posted on 02/19/2003 11:31:19 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: Swordmaker
Too bad George Santayana's famous aphorism is lost on today's post-modern Left.
5 posted on 02/19/2003 11:33:16 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: JohnHuang2
BTTT
6 posted on 02/19/2003 11:33:23 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: JohnHuang2
wonderful...
7 posted on 02/19/2003 11:36:07 PM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: DB
EXCELLENT article! Thanks for posting it!
8 posted on 02/19/2003 11:38:55 PM PST by IrishRainy
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To: JohnHuang2
bump to the top
9 posted on 02/19/2003 11:40:28 PM PST by timestax
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To: JohnHuang2
Because the leaders of the "free world" chose to ignore the problem and hope it would "go away" 80 MILLION people died. That does not take into account how many millions were maimed or wounded for life. Nor does it take into account how many children were orphaned due to the death of their parents.

Today we are at the crossroads of history. America and it's coalition of the willing must act and act soon. If not, our children's children will live in a world where anthrax, bio and chemical attacks on America and freedom loving countries around the world (if any are left) will be the norm. Millions upon millions will die and they will have this generation to blame.

10 posted on 02/19/2003 11:40:30 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: JohnHuang2; joanie-f; snopercod
Bump.
11 posted on 02/19/2003 11:40:49 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: JohnHuang2
I am reading Roosevelt's War and I have been thinking the same thing, the slogans are the same, the reasons are the same and the anti-semitism is the same.

By the way... How many Frenchmen does it take to save Paris? answer... No one knows, they've never tried it.

12 posted on 02/19/2003 11:41:37 PM PST by Eva
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To: JohnHuang2; joanie-f; snopercod; PhiKapMom; Alamo-Girl; brityank; TPartyType
Churchill "started a highly unpopular campaign for rearmament"

Bush must, too.

13 posted on 02/19/2003 11:45:51 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: joanie-f; snopercod
There's a book entitled, Hostage to Fortune. If you can find it, you'd learn a bit of history about that day in 1936 when Hitler marched into the Rhineland.
14 posted on 02/19/2003 11:48:00 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: JohnHuang2

This picture cries out for a bit of photoshopping.

15 posted on 02/19/2003 11:57:20 PM PST by Stultis
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To: goldstategop
Bump.
16 posted on 02/19/2003 11:59:32 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: JohnHuang2
Alistair Cooke (born 20 NOV 1908) remembers well the lessons of that history.

Bookmarked.
17 posted on 02/20/2003 12:20:05 AM PST by petuniasevan (Wonders of the universe)
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To: JohnHuang2
Great catch.
18 posted on 02/20/2003 12:42:09 AM PST by fella
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To: JohnHuang2
BUMP!
19 posted on 02/20/2003 1:24:42 AM PST by happygrl
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for posting this, John. I'm 'drag and pasting' it to relatives this very night!
20 posted on 02/20/2003 1:42:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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