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Police Seize Home Arsenal Fire Alerts Authorities to Nearly 500 (legal) Weapons
The Asbury Park Press ^ | 12-03-02 | Michael Clancy

Posted on 12/03/2002 6:32:19 AM PST by Iron Eagle

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:38:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Published in the Asbury Park Press 12/03/02 Fire alerts authorities to nearly 500 weapons By MICHAEL CLANCY STAFF WRITER FAIR HAVEN -- Three dump trucks removed an arsenal of live ammunition and almost 500 weapons -- all of them apparently held legally -- which police found in a home after the fire department responded to a chimney fire and the homeowner threatened the fire chief with a rifle, authorities said yesterday.


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Interesting, does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

Thoughts on this story and the man's run-in with police?

1 posted on 12/03/2002 6:32:20 AM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: Iron Eagle
"...scattered through every room in the home except the kitchen and bath..."

Hey - he still had room for more stuff!

But I know how he feels, because Mrs. error
won't let me keep guns in the kitchen, either...
2 posted on 12/03/2002 6:36:54 AM PST by error99
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To: Iron Eagle
I see a dufus who pointed a gun at someone when he wasn't prepared to use it (and live with the consequences).
3 posted on 12/03/2002 6:37:51 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: *bang_list
Bang
4 posted on 12/03/2002 6:38:49 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Iron Eagle
Hmmm . . . you're not allowed to set your own home on fire, but are you allowed to let your home burn down?

I'm sure the argument is: the Fire Department has determined that the fire in your own is a threat to the property of others in your immediate vicinity.

And, of course, a large collection of weapons is not an "arsenal." An arsenal is a factory where weapons are made. An armory is a place where weapons are stored.

5 posted on 12/03/2002 6:39:47 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Iron Eagle
Years ago, law in NY was, once you called FD, the chief on scene was in control.
6 posted on 12/03/2002 6:40:27 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: error99
My hubby doesn't keep any guns in the kitchen. However, I do.
7 posted on 12/03/2002 6:42:15 AM PST by CFW
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To: wideawake
Thanks for the quick vocabulary lesson. The newsies will never get it right, I'm afraid.

I wonder if the gun-grabbers will start using the "dangerous if a fire breaks out" excuse to start hauling away more guns, limiting ownership, and legislating storage insode of fire-proof, air-tight steel safes 7" thick, with 14 combination locks, as well as 3 keyed locks... for our safety, of course.

8 posted on 12/03/2002 6:44:39 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Catspaw; wimpycat; Poohbah
Wonder what his FR membername is?
9 posted on 12/03/2002 6:46:36 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Iron Eagle
Interesting, does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

Only if you believe that the state does not own your home or your property.

10 posted on 12/03/2002 6:47:32 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Iron Eagle
and the homeowner threatened the fire chief with a rifle

Mistake number one

bring a shotgun next time ;-p

does one have the right to prevent firefighters from entering one's burning home?

depends how much beer they have under wing

11 posted on 12/03/2002 6:48:47 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Iron Eagle
I'll note for the record that the guy was an idiot and was violating many, many rules of gun safety like leaving loaded handguns all over his house.

I mean, the main reason to own a handgun is for home defense. How safe is your home if anyone who breaks in has numerous loaded handguns within easy reach?

This guy and his ilk do a lot to set back the cause of Second Amendment rights.

12 posted on 12/03/2002 6:49:37 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Iron Eagle
What was he thinking, waving a gun at someone trying to help?
13 posted on 12/03/2002 6:52:19 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: error99
lol!
14 posted on 12/03/2002 6:52:37 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Iron Eagle
Looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Would this imbecile have been the next worker gone postal? Or have a neighbor killed in a dispute.

As a supporter of the second amendment it appears this guy was either a supplier of guns or off his rocker. Certainly not a prospect to teach a gun safety course.

Any wagers as to how much longer he will work for the Army?
15 posted on 12/03/2002 6:53:12 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: wideawake
"..How safe is your home if anyone who breaks in has numerous loaded handguns within easy reach?..."

Don't you believe in having a "fair" fight???
16 posted on 12/03/2002 6:53:37 AM PST by error99
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To: wideawake
This guy and his ilk do a lot to set back the cause of Second Amendment rights.

No one guy or group of guys or any type of "ilk" can do a damn thing to "set back" the cause of Second Amendment rights. The Second Amendment is written in stone any cannot be violated, period. It doesn't matter what anyone else does. This guy didn't even break any laws.

17 posted on 12/03/2002 6:53:42 AM PST by southern rock
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To: wideawake
bingo
18 posted on 12/03/2002 6:54:43 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Teacher317
limiting ownership, and legislating storage insode of fire-proof, air-tight steel safes 7" thick, with 14 combination locks,

Actually, having just purchased a fire resistant safe they recommend NOT storing your ammo inside it. In case of a fire, it *does* get hot in there, and would turn the thing into a giant bomb.

19 posted on 12/03/2002 6:54:43 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Iron Eagle
...Arford's permits for the weapons appeared to be in order...

Who else sees that this statement makes no sense, given our Bill of Rights? Are our papers next? Without a doubt.

One's chimney fire should not wave one's 4th Amendment rights. This man stupidly grabbed a rifle instead of a deadbolt.

20 posted on 12/03/2002 6:55:26 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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