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The Muslim Units of the Waffen SS
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Posted on 09/09/2002 6:35:31 AM PDT by 2banana

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There really should be a book on this. I had to use a variety of web sites plus some references in magazine/books and still do not know the full story.

It is interesting that the "religion of peace and tolerance" managed to raise two Muslim Waffen SS divisions in record time...

1 posted on 09/09/2002 6:35:31 AM PDT by 2banana
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Ah yes...what would a day be on FR without reflexive and indiscriminate bashing of all Muslims?
2 posted on 09/09/2002 6:36:51 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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...managed to raise two Muslim Waffen SS divisions in record time...

Not that there is anything unpeaceful about that.

3 posted on 09/09/2002 6:39:04 AM PDT by nonliberal
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To: 2banana
There really should be a book on this.

Have a look at David Pryce-Jones' The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs. He describes the Arab-Muslim-Nazi connection in great detail. There's even more than you've posted here.

4 posted on 09/09/2002 6:39:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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I have yet to see an Amish Ranger Battalion...
5 posted on 09/09/2002 6:40:36 AM PDT by 2banana
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If your point is that not all Christians think alike (for example Croat Christians who fought for the Nazis versus Amish) we entirely agree. For this reason, I generally like to avoid simplistic bashing of every member of a major religion. Do I believe that Islam is a great religion of peace? No. Like other religions, Islam is very much a mixed bag with many diverse elements.
6 posted on 09/09/2002 6:44:47 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: 2banana
Husseni was Arafats uncle.
7 posted on 09/09/2002 6:44:52 AM PDT by cynicom
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Islam - Religion of Peace 0cents Stamp

8 posted on 09/09/2002 6:45:46 AM PDT by Seeking the truth
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Islam is very much a mixed bag with many diverse elements.

It would be rather refreshing if some of those "diverse elements" would pipe in and do some condemnation.....their silence has been deafening.

9 posted on 09/09/2002 6:47:14 AM PDT by ErnBatavia
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Look...I don't disagree that much modern Islam is screwed up in many ways. At the same time, this doesn't mean that the doctrine of collective guilt is accurate. Collectivist theories of that type were the great bane of the twentieth century.
10 posted on 09/09/2002 6:52:17 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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Austin...

Unfortunately, muslims are not that charitable towards you.

11 posted on 09/09/2002 6:53:10 AM PDT by cynicom
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Alija Izetbegovic, the first president of independent Bosnia-Herzegovina, was a member of the SS Handschar division during World War II. He served three years in prison after World War II for his activities.

A significant number of SS men found refuge in Egypt and Syria after World War II and served the Nasser regime in its fight to destroy Israel. Some even converted to Islam and adopted Islamic names.

Nazism and Islamism have more in common than just a hatred for Jews.

12 posted on 09/09/2002 6:55:26 AM PDT by Loyalist
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Maybe it is just me but ...

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

(All information is from US State Department Human Rights Reports)

I could go on with more examples.

13 posted on 09/09/2002 6:58:36 AM PDT by 2banana
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Of course we all agree that just because Islam calls for the murder of pagans and the conversion of Jews and Christians doesn't mean that they aren't really lovely people if you get to know them. Why, I had a muslim mechanic once and he never tried to kill me at all! And the things they can do with blue and white tile are simply marvelous.
14 posted on 09/09/2002 6:58:45 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Ah yes...what would a day be on FR without reflexive and indiscriminate bashing of all Muslims?

Interesting. Where did you find that it bashes ALL muslims? Are you getting defensive?

15 posted on 09/09/2002 6:59:34 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: 2banana
...Details here.
16 posted on 09/09/2002 7:03:14 AM PDT by Consort
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To: cynicom
Husseini was Arafats uncle.

"Arafat's actual name was Abd al-Rahman abd al-Bauf Arafat al-Qud al-Husseini. He shortened it to obscure his kinship with the notorious Nazi and ex-Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini." Howard M. Sachar, A HISTORY OF ISRAEL (New York: Knopf, 1976).

The Bet Agron International Center in Jerusalem interviewed Arafat's brother and sister, who described the Mufti as a cousin (family member) with tremendous influence on young Yassir after the Mufti returned from Berlin to Cairo. Yasser Arafat himself keeps his exact lineage and birthplace secret. [No doubt, and I've heard the "Grand Mufti" was his uncle]

Saddam Hussein was raised in the house of his uncle Khayrallah Tulfah, who was a leader in the Mufti's pro-Nazi coup in Iraq in May 1941."

Nazis all over the place...

17 posted on 09/09/2002 7:11:28 AM PDT by xJones
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ping!
18 posted on 09/09/2002 7:19:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Ah yes...what would a day be on FR without reflexive and indiscriminate bashing of all Muslims?

Hey, if the swastika fits.....
19 posted on 09/09/2002 7:24:43 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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Bump for future reading.
20 posted on 09/09/2002 7:25:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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