Posted on 08/05/2002 5:30:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07
AMENDMENT 14
SECTION 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
May it come to pass that those who submit their children for murder and the people who carry forth that murder, have their lives taken in the same manner as the slain child. For this I pray.
Afraid not inquest. The purpose of the census was and is simply to aportion representation and taxes. It speaks not one wit to whether or not unborn babies are people. But chew on this. Blacks were only three fifiths of a person and there were laws against abortion as early as 1800, none of which were found to be unconstitutional.
OK, I'll try once more. An appendage is attached to the trunk of something. The blood flowing through it and its genetic code are identical to the person or thing it is attached to and absent disease it poses no danger to that person unless it gets caught in the zipper.
A baby on the other hand has its own unique genetic code, its own blood supply and a placental barrier that seperates Mom and Baby? Would you care to know why that placental barrier exists?
It is amazing the lenghts to which some folks go in order to deny what is right in front of their eyes. I don't get it, do you?
appendage:
1 : an adjunct to something larger or more important
2 : a subordinate or derivative body part; especially : a limb or analogous part (as a seta)
A woman's fetus is an appendage of the woman and is the woman's property.
No, but I play one on TV! :>)
Let's see. You espouse a defense of abortion which is in my view the killing of babies yet you are arguably FR's most vocal anti-hunting siren. Do you value a wild animal more than a "fetus" as you prefer to call them?
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| SPOKEN BY SOMEONE ALREADY FREE | SPOKEN BY SOMEONE ALREADY BORN | |
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Although he may have a heart and a brain, and he may be human life biologically, a slave is not a legal person. The Dred Scott decision by the U.S. Supreme Court has made that clear. |
Although he may have a heart and a brain, and he may be a human life biologically, an unborn baby is not a legal person. The Wade v. Roe decision by the U.S. Supreme Court has made that clear. |
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A black man only becomes a legal person when he is set free. Before that time, we should not concern ourselves about him. He has no legal rights. |
A baby only becomes a legal person when he is born. Before that time, we should not concern ourselves about him. He has no legal rights. |
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If you think slavery is wrong, then nobody is forcing you to be a slave-owner. But don't impose your morality on somebody else! |
If you think abortion is wrong, then nobody is forcing you to have one. But don't impose your morality on somebody else! |
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A man has a right to do what he wants with his own property. |
A woman has a right to do what she wants with her own body. |
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| Isn't slavery really something merciful? After all, every black man has the right to be protected. Isn't it better never to be set free than to be sent unprepared, and ill-equipped, into a cruel world? | Isn't abortion really something merciful? After all, every baby has a right to be wanted. Isn't it better never to be born than to be sent alone and unloved into a cruel world?
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LOL. I'm irrational? You're argument sucks, it doesn't pass the laugh test, the genetic test,the blood test or the placental barrier test.
Why don't you simply say that it is a person but that you think these persons should be subject to abortion at the will of the Mother. That's an honest, albeit wrong in my view, position to take. The appendage argument is ridiculous.
LOL!
I know people that have never paid taxes, they sure do vote, though.
YES, they are "Persons". They are each separate and individual. A fetus inside and connected to the mother is not.
Are you an attorney?
I didn't mind being asked if I was a politician, but an attorney?
THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS!
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