Update on Underwater Megalithic

EarthFiles ^ | 11.19.01 | Linda Moulton Howe

[Texas Yellow Rose]

Skulls... I found this article HERE .. Hoax???

Skulls from Ica, Peru and Merida, Mexico

These skulls were photographed by Robert Connolly on his trip around the world during which he was collecting materials about ancient civilizations. The discovery of unusual skulls was thus an unintended "spinoff" of his efforts. Robert Connolly published his photographs on a CD-ROM, titled "The Search For Ancient Wisdom", Cambrix, 1-800-992-8781, in 1995.

The data about the skulls is incomplete, and that makes the correct assessment of their age, context with other hominids, as well as placement of their origin extremely difficult. Some of the skulls are very distinct, as if they belong to entirely different species, remotely similar to genus Homo. The first thing that attracts attention is the size and shape of the cranium in all the specimens. There are 4 different groups represented in the pictures. As a matter of convenience, I labeled them "conehead", "jack-o-lantern" or "J" and "M" based on the shape of the skull, except the first and possibly earliest type of skull, which I call "premodern".

When some of these pictures (the first two) were posted on CompuServe more than year ago, the majority of people assumed that they represented an example of binding of the head, well known to be in fashion in ancient Nubia, Egypt and other cultures. The problem with this theory is that the inside of the cranium of the mentioned skulls, although elongated and with a back sloping, flattened forehead, have the same capacity as normal human skulls; the only difference is the shape achieved by frontal and side deformations. They are actually more similar to the first type of skull (premodern) with the rounded back, than the conehead type. The cone-shaped types of skull are not found amongst the usual skull-binding samples.

The first skull presents problems of its own. The frontal part of the skull seems to belong to an individual of the pre-Neanderthal family, but the lower jaw, though more robust than modern human type, has a modern shape and characteristics. The shape of the cranium does not have any comparison with the Erectus, Neanderthal types, nor the modern human type. Some minor Neanderthal characteristics are present, as is the occipital ridge on the bottom back of the skull and the flattened bottom of the cranium, other characteristics point more towards Homo Erectus. The angle of the cranial bottom is, though, unusual. We cannot exclude the possibility of a deformed individual in this case, but it is highly unlikely that the angle of the frontal part would require a modification of the lower jaw in the process of growing to resemble modern human types with their projected chin rim. The answer seems to be that the skull belongs to a representative of an unknown premodern human or humanoid type.

As is obvious from the comparison with a modern human skull, the cranial capacity lies within the modern human range. This is not surprising, since the late Neanderthals and early modern humans (Cro-Magnon) had larger cranial capacities (both roughly 1600 ccm to 1750 ccm) than modern humans (av. 1450 ccm). The decrease of the cranial capacity (sudden at that -- the specimens of modern humans after about 10500 BCE have smaller craniums) is a puzzling matter, but that's another story.

No less puzzling is what a representative of a premodern human type is doing on the South American continent. According to the orthodox anthropology, this skull simply does not exist, because it cannot be. Textbooks' oldest date of appearance of humans in North America is about 35000 BCE and much later for South America, based on the diffusion theory assumptions. The only accepted human types entering the continent are of the modern anatomy. There are some other sources that place all types of human genus in both Americas at much earlier dates based on numerous anomalous finds, but the academe sticks to its preconceived notions, no matter what. It's safer.

Premodern

The "premodern" skull and the following three specimens were found in the Paracas region of Perú. It does not necessarily mean that they are related. There is some possibility that the "premodern" is in fact a precursor of the "conehead" type, but since we do not have any dating analysis at hand, we may only speculate in this regard.

The "conehead" type is very unusual because of the cranial shape. Here we have three specimens, which exclude the possibility of random or artificial deformation (the already mentioned Nubian deformations had quite a number of individual variations). They have individual characteristics within the range of overall morphology. There is no doubt that they are closely related and possibly represent quite a distinct branch of the genus Homo, if not an entirely different species.

The comparison of the C1 with a modern human skull has slight inaccuracies, caused by a degree of distortion when rotating the skull shape into position. As is obvious from C2 and C3, the angle of the bottom part of the cranium does not deviate from normal. However, the general proportions are correct.

Figure C1

The enormity of the cranial vault is obvious from all three pictures. By interpolation, we can estimate the minimum cranial capacity at 2200 ccm, but the value can be as high as 2500 ccm. The shape of the skull may be a biological response--a survival of the species mechanism--to increase the brain mass without the danger of relegating the species to extinction and keeping a viable biological reproduction intact. However, since we do not see the representatives of the "conehead" type in modern population, something prevented the type becoming as widespread as it is in the case of present-day moderns.

Figure C2

Figure C3

The "J" type of skull presents different sets of problems. It is an equivalent of the modern type of skull in all respects, with only several factors out of proportion. Less significant is the size of eye sockets which are about 15% larger than in modern populations. More significant is the enormity of the cranial vault. The estimated cranial capacity ranges between minimum of 2600 ccm to 3200 ccm.

Again, the age of the specimen is unknown and so far I am not aware of other specimens of this type. The variation on a theme may be the "M" type of skull which is even more bizarre than all the previous skulls.

Type "J"

The "M" type of skull is incomplete, as the lower part of the facial area is concerned. What is apparent from the remnants of the facial portion is that the characteristics are entirely within the range of a normal human skull. The cranial vault, on the other hand, is the largest amongst the displayed specimens. Also, the two protruding "lobes" are highly anomalous. The cranial capacity can be estimated safely above 3000 ccm mark.

Type "M"

Both "J" and "M" types are bordering on biological impossibility. The only explanation I can imagine for the specimens to be naturally born is if the neoteny (the ability of the species to prolong the growth period before maturing) of both groups had been expanded beyond the range for a modern type of human, for the skull to grow to such a size. That may also mean the average life span of these specimens may have been substantially longer than the average for the modern human type.

Any conjectures that what these specimens represent are simply deformations or pathological cases can be hardly substantiated. Anomalous types of growth or shapes appear from time to time in the modern human population, however, these occurrences are still within the range of the given species.The largest skull documented in the medical literature had the cranial capacity of 1980 ccm, however, the shape of the skull was normal. Also, it is necessary to keep in mind that any pathological growth of the cranium has dire consequences for the afflicted individual at the early stage of the development, practically without exception. Nature is very unforgiving in this respect. All the specimens presented here were mature individuals.

The capacity of the cranial vault (and thus the brain mass) and intelligence is not necessarily indicated by the other. The individual with the largest skull, already mentioned above, was a retarded man, while Anatole France with his 1100 ccm was quite a brilliant writer.

[blam]

"Skulls... I found this article HERE .. Hoax???"

I have no idea? Maybe a genetic defect that pops-up from time to time or something that evolved out of the gene pool? After all, we have blue people in Kentucky! LOL (See the article on my bookmarks on my profile page)

[rightofrush]

These skulls (if not the same) remind me of those that I saw last year on the Art Bell web site.
He geave the as evidence of inter-breeding with extra-terrestrials.

[rightofrush]

He geave the = He gave them

[Texas Yellow Rose]

He gave them as evidence of inter-breeding with extra-terrestrials.

Well I don't know about the "extra-terrestrials", but the "inter-breeding" is certainly an interesting thought..

Reminds me of Genesis 6.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[exodus]

To: rightofrush
"There is evidence that the north pole
was located in Hudson Bay at that time."

What evidence?
I've heard these stories about Atlantis in Antartica.
It would be more palatable
if I could find some/the evidence for this 'shift.'
# 108 by blam
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To: blam
Damn!
You've convinced me that I should take notes and keep a note book.
My days of keeping everything in my head is gone forever.
There was a book written on this subject a few years ago..."
# 112 by rightofrush
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The book you're thinking of is

"When the Sky Fell : In Search of Atlantis "
by Rand Flem-Ath, and Rose Flem-Ath,
published in 1997

There are map drawlings detailing the shifts of the poles,
and showing the locations of former poles
based on oceanographic magnetic readings.

Flem-Ath theorizes that the south pole ice cap
gets too off-center, causing the "wobble" of the earth
to increase, and then that causes the south polar ice cap
to break loose from it's anchor point.

When that much mass is suddenly
released, the poles shift.

His theory neatly explains the Ice Ages, too.

Interestingly, Clive Cussler wrote "Atlantis Found,"
a novel based on this theory,
where bad guys discover evidence of Atlantis,
and his hero Dirk Pitt has to stop the bad guys
from destroying our civilization by shifting the poles.

[rightofrush]

That was it! Thanks for the reference.

[ASA Vet]

Anything new on this story?

[ASA Vet]

From: http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/nation/2962443.htm

Probe Into Cuba's Possible 'Sunken City' Advances
BY ANDREW CAWTHORNE

HAVANA - (Reuters) - Scientific investigators said on
Friday they hope to better determine later this year if an unusual rock formation deep off
Cuba's coast could be a sunken city from a previously unknown ancient civilization.

``These are extremely peculiar structures ...
They have captured all our imagination,'' Cuban geologist Manuel Iturralde said at a conference
after a week on a boat over the site.

``If I had to explain this geologically, I would have a hard time,''
he told reporters later, saying examination of rock samples due to be collected in a few
months should shed further light on the formation off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip.

Iturralde, research director of Cuba's Natural History Museum, has joined Canadian
exploration company Advanced Digital Communications (ADC) in efforts to solve
the mystery of the smooth, geometrically shaped, granite-like rocks.
They are laid out in structures resembling pyramids, roads and other structures at more
than 2,000 feet in a 7-3/4 mile-square area.

ADC has suggested they might belong to a civilization that colonized the American continent
thousands of years ago, possibly sitting on an island that was sunk to great
depths by cataclysmic earth movement such as an earthquake.

That theory, and its inevitable parallel with the myth of the lost city of Atlantis,
has provoked skepticism from some scientists around the world who say the depth and age -- ADC
has spoken of at least 6,000 years' old -- were not credible.

Some European archaeologists said the stones, stumbled upon in July 2000 while ADC
was hunting with sonar equipment for treasure and sunken Spanish galleons,
could be formed by natural limestone.

But Iturralde's conclusion that there is no immediately apparent natural explanation
for the rocks has lent credence to ADC's theory.

``NEED FOR OPEN MIND''

``It appears like there is some kind of intelligent design in the structure's
configuration and planning,'' ADC's Soviet-born Canadian ocean engineer,
Paulina Zelitsky, said on the sidelines of the geophysical conference in Havana.

``I have worked in this field over 30 years and I have never before seen natural
structures shaped with such intelligent symmetry and plan.
From the very first moment, I was suspecting that these structures were not natural.''

While Iturralde gave evidence in his paper on Friday for seismic movement at the site,
and possible submerging of the land, he drew short of definitively concluding the
rocks were not shaped by nature. If, however, that theory was proven,
it would revolutionize understanding of the history of the Americas, he told reporters.

``It would change a lot our knowledge of humans and the evolution of the Americas,''
Iturralde said.

``Recently, a French archaeologist found some evidence of people being here in South America
40,000 years ago, something we never expect,
so you need to be always open to things that you are not expecting,
that are not in the framework of present-day knowledge ...
We may have found something that nobody has thought about.''

ADC plans to take a specially designed robot to the site in a few months to take samples
of the rocks and the sediment they are embedded in to try to date them and seek
signs they may have once been on dry land.
They will also be searching for any sign of human
life such as drawings, sculptures or artifacts.

``To drill samples from these structures is not easy because they look like granite.
And to drill granite at a depth of 600 meters is very difficult,'' Zelitsky said.

She said their discoveries could make history. ``I think we are talking about the
origins of the American continent.
There are many hypotheses about how the continent was colonized ...
There is quite a controversy, and I think our discovery will be the first
physical evidence of the true origins of developed civilization in the Americas.''

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[Chani]

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[cricket]

Good ones. . .could only think of the mundane. . .'Backreach'. . .

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[SunkenCiv]

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Piri Reis Map

Now that is interesting....

Sunkenciv send me back in time to this thread...

[SunkenCiv]

Moi?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1607979/posts?page=38#38

[blam]

"Sunkenciv send me back in time to this thread..."

Be careful, he's not who he appears to be. He once sent me into the future....I've not been the same since.