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1 posted on 04/20/2024 9:50:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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I am beginning to think we are at a point where you cannot get to the soul of this corrupt ruling class in our country. I think they actually want to kill all of us instead of live together. They are such cowards and at every level of authority. This is how Republics fall. These psychopaths gang up on every good person amongst them who tries to bring any accountability into our Government. What have they done to be so psychotic... it has to be something on the order of killing a child in a satanic ritual sacrifice. We have the most evil people in our Government running it... there is no other plausible explanation at this point.


33 posted on 04/20/2024 11:32:03 AM PDT by WinstonSmith1984 (Make 1984 fiction again.)
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The answer is CCC-style camps. Arrested for vagrancy? spend 6 months in a guarded quanset-hut camp in the countryside.

There they can have basic food and medical attention, and be kept away from drug dealers. The able-bodied can do physical labor and earn-money

Is it more humane to simply leave them on the street? All progressive-democrat solutions have failed, badly - not that they were ever intended to succeed anyway.

Of course, America with its present mind-set and political control could never, ever agree to such a thing.


34 posted on 04/20/2024 11:35:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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The original magistrate "judge" from the District Court of Oregon and the two 9th circuit "judges" in the 2 to 1 decision are all Clinton stooges.

Daniel P. Collins, a Trump judge, dissented from the whackjob Clinton crowd.

A federal appeals court Wednesday upheld a ruling that found the city of Grants Pass in southern Oregon violated the constitutional rights of people experiencing homelessness through a series of ordinances designed to prevent sleeping outside on public property.

In a 2-1 decision, judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals largely upheld a 2020 injunction issued by U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark Clarke, which ruled several ordinances designed to prevent people from sleeping on sidewalks and streets, violated the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the Eighth Amendment.

“We affirm the district court’s ruling that the City of Grants Pass cannot, consistent with the Eighth Amendment, enforce its anti-camping ordinances against homeless persons for the mere act of sleeping outside with rudimentary protection from the elements, or for sleeping in their car at night, when there is no other place in the City for them to go,” Roslyn Silver, a U.S. District Court Judge for the District of Arizona states in the court’s opinion. Circuit Court Judge Ronald Gould signed onto Silver’s opinion. Both judges were appointed by former President Bill Clinton.

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When the 9th circuit court’s conservatives moved to have the full 9th Circuit reconsider that ruling, they fell short by a 14-13 vote.

36 posted on 04/20/2024 11:52:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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BTT


39 posted on 04/20/2024 11:56:10 AM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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A proverbial saying, mid 17th century: Meaning that it is pointless to try to obtain restitution from someone without resources. ...

Sue a beggar and catch a louse - Oxford Reference

Oxford Reference
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41 posted on 04/20/2024 11:59:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((“Surrender often myeans wisely accommodating to what is beyond our control!” — Sylvia Boorstein.))
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A proverbial saying, mid 17th century: Meaning that it is pointless to try to obtain restitution from someone without resources. ...

Sue a beggar and catch a louse - Oxford Reference

Oxford Reference
https://www.oxfordreference.com › viewbydoi › acref


42 posted on 04/20/2024 12:00:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((“Surrender often myeans wisely accommodating to what is beyond our control!” — Sylvia Boorstein.))
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South of our border is EMPTY. Make a new America. Sounds tempting.


47 posted on 04/20/2024 12:56:35 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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Remember when the used to run the hobos out of town until they found out their names are good for voting.

They give them money food cards free medical and allow them to roam like cattle.


48 posted on 04/20/2024 12:57:52 PM PDT by Vaduz
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Before the mortgage industry was born a nice house could be purchased with cash. Now, most can not afford the payments to a nice house.


49 posted on 04/20/2024 1:42:25 PM PDT by Racketeer
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Record numbers are DRUGGIES that don’t want any rules.
Fixed it.


50 posted on 04/20/2024 1:43:16 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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Just make it LEGAL to Camp on Public Property anywhere within 1000 feet of the Personal Residence of Any and All Officers of the Court.


53 posted on 04/20/2024 2:22:54 PM PDT by eyeamok
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I’m against the FReeper consensus on this. Fine/arrest them when/if they do drugs in public, harass other people, or go number two on a sidewalk. Crack down harder on that. But I’m not down with fining people who don’t have the money anyway just for existing and sleeping which is a biological necessity for existence. It makes no sense to me to fine those people or to lock them up. And shelters are full in a lot of major cities and no one wants to pay for or have a shelter built in their neighborhood. If that situation were different, I’d be OK with giving them the choice of the cop taking them to a shelter or fining them. But it’s not, at least in a lot of cities, so the option seems to be let them sleep or lock them ‘up. And I don’t see the point of prisons instead of shelters...


54 posted on 04/20/2024 2:30:03 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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Nobody ever asks how we dealt with the homeless for the centuries before they suddenly became accepted and routine since the 60s and the left took control over all the issues and institutions, and laws that created them.


58 posted on 04/20/2024 4:21:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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I feed homeless and witness to them on a daily basis.
The problem is mental illness, Its compounded by drug addiction and alcohol addiction, Compounded by the idea that they think that they are living freely and they don’t have to answer to anybody for their action.
This is not a Hallmark movie where somebody lost their job.And they’re living in a van down by the river.
90% of these people are even 99% of these people are people who want to live homeless.Because they think it’s the way that they are supposed to live.


59 posted on 04/20/2024 4:40:00 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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Bump


64 posted on 04/21/2024 2:45:57 AM PDT by Mears
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I recall a supervisor once telling me that Americans deserve and must have a “safety net”. I recall telling the supervisor, there will come a time when the “safety net” will not exist. That time has come. There does not exist a “safety net” for Americans.


65 posted on 04/21/2024 4:09:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them. )
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