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1 posted on 04/20/2024 9:50:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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This has got to be a joke. If they are homeless, what makes you think they have money to pay a fine? Or, if they don’t pay, what makes you think they can be found a week later to take them to jail?


2 posted on 04/20/2024 9:54:41 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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Talk of adding insult to injury!


3 posted on 04/20/2024 9:56:22 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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Just one case. It was a video of a man, about thirty years old, who had a wife who died. He was stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

The day after her funeral he was told to leave his apartment.

He tried the homeless shelters but people in there were doing drugs and were dangerous.

So he lived in a tent because it was safer than the shelter.

If he worked a job on the books the creditors would take so much of his earnings he’d still be living in a tent.

There are many reasons people are homeless.


4 posted on 04/20/2024 9:57:15 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Only if they are legacy US citizens.

"Migrants" are exempt.

5 posted on 04/20/2024 9:58:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Plenty of resources for the illegal alien hoard


6 posted on 04/20/2024 9:59:29 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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Were we really stupid enough to believe that if we offshored our manufacturing and technology, that this wouldn't be one of the results?

After reviewing some of the posts of the free traitors defending the trade deals that were being debated at the time, the answer is clearly yes.

8 posted on 04/20/2024 10:01:57 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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“when shelter space is lacking”

Plenty of empty towns in the West and MidWest and certainly the Rust Belt. Lotsa space in the South, towns that need rejuvenating.

Can always head there. Nebraska even has towns that will pay people to live there...if they improve the house and lot they’re on.

Nothern Nevada and Eastern Oregon are vast, empty spaces with mountains, water, minerals and even grass lands that can be used to live on.

There isn’t any right to live on the beach or in Beverly Hills. Grants Pass ain’t either, but it’s a pleasant town...or was. If you can’t afford to live there...move on. To someplace you can.


9 posted on 04/20/2024 10:03:50 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Big, mostly unconstitutional government: “The Road to Serfdom.”

Kill the $3+ trillion unconstitutional portion of the federal government or it will kill you.


10 posted on 04/20/2024 10:04:31 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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The solution to record high homeless numbers in America is to throw open the borders and bring millions of illiterate, poor people into the country. That should fix the problem.


13 posted on 04/20/2024 10:08:14 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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I had a history professor who got one night in class to talking over 1930s in Louisiana (particularly covering Shreveport, Houma, and Baton Rouge). All of them reached a point with locals where camping or standing too long in city limits was forbidden, with some cop driving you to the outer limits of town and telling you to proceed on.


16 posted on 04/20/2024 10:12:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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That’s cuz the illegal aliens didn’t bring their homes with them.


18 posted on 04/20/2024 10:17:35 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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I do believe the issue is whether doing so constitutes “cruel and unusual” punishment as stated in the 8th Amendment unless adequate shelter is provided by those places under the circuit court’s jurisdiction.

It is rather a stretch to believe it does apply in such situations.


19 posted on 04/20/2024 10:18:25 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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Can cities fine them for sleeping in parks and on sidewalks?

Can they? They must ... that is, if a city wants to preserve any form of a function civil society. The evidence -- the experience -- is undeniably clear.

20 posted on 04/20/2024 10:19:40 AM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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Fine the Homeless all you want. Most of them, if they have any money at all, spend it on drugs and booze.


21 posted on 04/20/2024 10:22:58 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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Fining people who have no money is just the way a mindless bureaucracy functions.

How you deal with homeless people depends primarily on why they are homeless. Mentally ill druggie vs working class person bankrupted by medical bills and destroyed by bill collectors?

I have a HS classmate, he and wife are retired teachers. Her cancer treatments did them in. They had to move out of state and do everything under a relative’s name, owning nothing in their names and going by a different last name when possible. They are conservative, educated and responsible people. If they had not been able to do this they would be homeless. Some people don’t have family that could or would assist in such a manner.


22 posted on 04/20/2024 10:24:37 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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They’ll pay the fines from the people who drop change into their cups?


24 posted on 04/20/2024 10:31:05 AM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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Put them up in 5 star Hotels like they do illegals.


25 posted on 04/20/2024 10:31:29 AM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore…)
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I heard that the Democrats and Congress wants to pass a bill that gives homeless Right to be squatters in homes that have been vacant for more than 30 days.


26 posted on 04/20/2024 10:32:37 AM PDT by ncfool (America has died we are living in the united socialist states of aMeriKa)
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America last!

Trillions for globalist wars and foreign countries, while America is bankrupt and homeless.


30 posted on 04/20/2024 11:03:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This is a real problem. In our little Northern California in the Gold Country, the homeless are taking over every corner whereas several years ago, it was not the case. I blame it on legalized pot where young men would come to the area to get jobs as “bud trimmers” get paid in pot and after a couple of months be out of pot and money and on the corner again with a sign...

My plan is to round up all the homeless, ship them to the Mojave...separate those that are simply homeless due to financial issues, etc—those that just need a hand up. Integrate them back into society.

The druggies and alkies...those that want treatment—treat them—as many times as needed because it can be tough for some....and re-integrate them back into society.

The mentally-ill? Treat them with compassion. Those that can re-integrate into society with medication—do it...those that just can’t get along with societal rules—create a safe environment—a tent city so to speak. Let them have their drugs and alcohol—safely regulated of course and they will remain outside of society—but it is our duty to protect those people so that they do not suffer or come under ill harm.

That is my idea and sure, there are holes in it that need refinement, but what else need society do? As Jesus said, the Poor will always be with us. Same with those that just can’t get with the societal program—not the avant garde, not the eccentrics—they are different. Every society and generation needs an Emperor Norton...


31 posted on 04/20/2024 11:26:27 AM PDT by abigkahuna
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