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Victor Davis Hanson: Reflections on Israel’s New Existential War
American Greatness ^ | 9 Oct, 2023 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/09/2023 4:27:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The Hamas invasion was designed to shock Israelis through their pre-civilizational desecration of the bodies of the dead.

There have been plenty of terrorist attacks on Israel. A dozen or so conventional wars of various magnitude have been waged against the Jewish state. And more often there have been mixtures of both.

Yet never have hundreds of gangs of black-clad murderers carefully planned to swarm Israel, with an agenda to pull random Jews out of their homes and off the street, murder them, and toss their bodies in the street.

In fact, the closest parallel to the sort of methods Hamas is now embracing is something close to the Rwanda 1994 mass killing, when swarms of Hutu militia killers launched a preplanned murder spree against thousands of Tutsi civilians.

Note one common theme of these horrific videos of the murdering of young women: the bloodthirst of the Gaza crowd. There appears a natural desire of everyday Gazans to video the mutilations, an embrace of the spitting on the doomed, a frenzied effort to mutilate the dead—and the absence of a single Gazan objecting to the group murder of a civilian.

Hamas did not act out of the ordinary, but in sync with its people. In truth, there is something so terribly wrong in Gaza that the United States should keep as far away as it can from such barbarity—and hope that it too feels the same about America and keeps to itself.

So again why did Hamas mount such a long-planned and multifaceted assault on Israeli towns, public buildings, soldiers, and civilians?

The invasion was not so much a surprise attack, in the conventional Pearl Harbor sense, as a carefully calibrated land, sea, and ground effort at mass killing and hostage taking. It was designed to execute noncombatants...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hamas; hamasinvasion; invasion; israel; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: Justa

No, I don’t remember, I was 6. What happened to the citizens when the NVA and Viet Congress first entered Hue?


41 posted on 10/09/2023 6:12:50 AM PDT by ladyrustic
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To: dfwgator
Somebody knew, but didn’t tell \/ https://twitter.com/i/status/1710770625751457952 415892-380db5dcfbeb19f04504e7abad605674-2
42 posted on 10/09/2023 6:19:12 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The same reasons Al Qaeda brought the Towers down on 9/11/01. Religious fanatics.


43 posted on 10/09/2023 6:20:25 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Flag_This

Obama and Jarrett wanted Iran to balance the power in the Middle east - They wanted this Iran funded and planned attack.


44 posted on 10/09/2023 6:23:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: MtnClimber

I’m done. I’m pulling out the Glock 17 and open/concealed carrying from here on.


45 posted on 10/09/2023 6:27:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he's being fooled. - Mark Twain)
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To: Lurker
Who is "we?"

And what kind of sovereign country would ever let another one dictate terms of exposing yourself to hostile threats like that?

46 posted on 10/09/2023 6:30:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: MtnClimber

I paused the videos of the DC demonstration. Probably half were the stupid useful white college students. There were probably half that looked like they could be of middle eastern decent. There are many young white twenty to thirty somethings that heard from their college professors that the Jews are occupiers of the Palestinian lands since 1948.

They seem to always forget that the population of Israel is made up 18% Muslim, 2% Christian, 2% Druze, 74% Jewish. They also forget that it is the only real functioning Democratically elected government in the middle east.


47 posted on 10/09/2023 6:31:53 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Chickensoup

They certainly are. We have the John Brown Gun Club here in the Northwest.
https://psjbgc.org/
https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club

At every antifa “event” these guys will be there in the background acting like a Secret Service member providing protection for the black clad communists to vandalize and loot. (In theory according to FJB)


48 posted on 10/09/2023 6:35:10 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: SMARTY

“We have pro-islamic ‘politicians’ in our government.”

Don’t you think that Bibbi knows that?
He knows who is pulling Biden’s strings.
Remember the pictures of him meeting with Obama?
The Liberals in Israel with the help of our government have been trying to get rid of Bibbi for years now.
Israel is lucky that he is the PM now.


49 posted on 10/09/2023 6:36:04 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: mewzilla

Agree. We are being manipulated again. The MIC knows that the Ukraine gravy train is coming to and end with Republicans. How do you get the Republicans on board for the next “project”?...Israel.


50 posted on 10/09/2023 6:37:09 AM PDT by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy)
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To: Alberta's Child

“ And what kind of sovereign country would ever let another one dictate terms of exposing yourself to hostile threats like that?”

Israel is in a difficult position because of our government. Bibi should tell Biden to pound sand no matter how he whines about “restraint”.

I hope he refuses to take any calls from any member of this administration.

L


51 posted on 10/09/2023 6:40:17 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Lurker
Israel is in a difficult position because of our government it's a welfare client state of the U.S.

There -- I fixed it.

52 posted on 10/09/2023 6:41:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Whic is why when you see the pictures from Gaza of all the people in the streets NONE of them are WOMEN. The women over a certain age are all inside taking care of the children dressed properly in their BURKAS.

Maybe the SQAUD should show up to the next session/speaker vote dressed in Burkas. Like they would be IF they were in any country where Shria Law is followed.


53 posted on 10/09/2023 6:44:03 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: MtnClimber

> I am surprised by the number of pro-islamic rallies here in the USA.

By their acts ye shall know them.


54 posted on 10/09/2023 6:47:51 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Alberta's Child

I wouldn’t put it quite that way. Yes, we give them a lot of aid, something which I’m against. But then I’m against all foreign aid. There’s not a single word in the Constitution that authorizes giving taxpayer money to foreign governments.

That being said this thing is much, much bigger than just Hamas (Iran) against Israel. This is a bunch of 7th century savages bent on spreading their odious political philosophy that masquerades as a religion until it dominates the world.

“First the Saturday people. Then the Sunday people.” They make no secret of it. They’ve been screaming it in our faces for years. They won’t be happy until we are all slamming our heads into the ground 7 times a day or we are dead.

So we have a choice to make. We can support the civilized country despite its flaws or we can wait until it’s our cities that are in flames. Because that’s how it is. Anyone thinking for one second that those barbarians wouldn’t love to do this to us is a fool.

I know which side I’m on. Because one way or another we are going to have to pick a side. I don’t like it anymore than you do. But we no longer have any choice in the matter.

L


55 posted on 10/09/2023 6:50:09 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: ladyrustic

“What happened to the citizens when the NVA and Viet Congress first entered Hue?”

They went house to house in the early morning hours. Removed the occupants. The men were executed and thrown into mass graves. Many women and girls were gang raped. Women, children and the elderly were taken to North Vietnam as hostages or slaves.

It’s a KGB template.

Sanitized Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF


56 posted on 10/09/2023 6:54:31 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Ezekiel

October 7th is also the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto.

Look it up.


57 posted on 10/09/2023 6:56:01 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Qiviut
Carolyn Glick sort of gets into that in this video, which was worth watching, IMO.

Thank you for posting. It is absolutely worth watching.

I feel for the people of Israel.

I also hope and pray we don't have someone like Carolyn Glick coming on YouTube here with the same story about our own USA failures. We've made all the mistakes the Israelis made -- only on a much larger scale.

Millions of people cross our borders, and they don't need tractors to break down walls; they just walk across and are given welcome care packages and hand-outs from our empty collective bank account. And, then there's a woke military whose focus is on social engineering with an LBGQVXYZ agenda and rainbow flags instead of battle flags.

I pray for Irael and for us!

58 posted on 10/09/2023 6:58:50 AM PDT by icclearly (Q)
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To: Lurker

Also note they are “God’s Chosen” whose nation is cited throughout the Bible. Those who stand with Israel’s enemies stand with evil and oppose God. Like the Usurper Administration does.


59 posted on 10/09/2023 7:04:39 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Fortunately despite aging I've been spared the ravages of maturity.)
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To: Justa

There are Ukrainians willing to surrender to Russian forces en mass. I doubt that is the case in Israel. I agree that war is hell.


60 posted on 10/09/2023 7:05:38 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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