Posted on 09/19/2023 3:50:46 AM PDT by Reno89519
Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis says Donald Trump’s recent statements on the abortion issue show the former president’s “values” are out of step with Iowa GOP voters. Trump said during an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” that the six week abortion ban DeSantis signed into law this spring was a terrible mistake.
“Donald Trump may think it’s terrible. I think protecting babies with heartbeats is noble and just and I’m proud to have signed the heartbeat bill in Florida and I know Iowa has similar legislation,” DeSantis says. “I don’t know how you can even make the claim that you’re somehow prolife if you’re criticizing states for enacting protections for babies that have heartbeats.”
DeSantis made his comments during an interview with Radio Iowa. (Audio below)
DeSantis suggested Trump’s remarks are :a window” into how Trump’s 2024 campaign is diverting from the promises he made during the 2016 campaign. “And I think he’s changing in a way that is not consistent with the values of the people in Iowa,” DeSantis told Radio Iowa.
Trump also indicated during his “Meet the Press” interview that he’d negotiate a deal on abortion that’s acceptable to both sides. DeSantis said that’s “the danger” of returning Trump to the White House for a second term.
“I’ve given him credit for his accomplishments, whether it’s the court appointments, whether it’s the Abraham Accords…the deregulation and I think he does deserve credit for that, but anytime he did a deal with Democrats whether it was on budget, whether it was on the criminal justice ‘First Step Act,’ they ended up taking him to the cleaners,” DeSantis said. “I think if he’s going into this saying he’s going to make the Democrats happy with respect to right to life, I think all pro-lifers should know that he’s preparing to sell you out.”
Current Florida law bans most abortions after the 15th week of a pregnancy, but a court ruling this fall could let the six week abortion ban DeSantis signed this spring go into effect. Activists in Florida, on both sides of the abortion issue are now gathering petition signatures, hoping to amend Florida’s state constitution so it reflects their views.
“Clearly, we’ll make the positive case for what we did as something that is appropriate and based on science and based on what is just,” DeSantis said.
A University of North Florida poll conducted in March found 75% of Florida residents surveyed either somewhat or strongly oppose the six week abortion ban DeSantis signed into law in April. “As a leader, it doesn’t register to me, to be quite frank,” DeSantis said regarding polling data on abortion. “I mean I think there are issues that come from your beliefs and I think that you advance those because you think they’re right.”
Audio: https://cdn.radioiowa.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2023DeSantisSept18-1.mp3
You are so right. I was talking with a neighbor that is a news anchor for the local NBC affiliate last night. I do not know,her political persuasion, although I suspect it is Republican. I mentioned to her the Trump interview on NBC Sunday. She was not aware of it. I asked what her memory of the SCOTUS decision in Dobbs was. She quickly said that abortion should be sent to the states as it is not a federal or Constitutional issue. She is right. I told her Trump responded to an abortion uestion that he would negotiate with Democrats. The female news anchor said with disgust, “Who is he going to negotiate with? It is an issue for the states.”
Dobbs didn’t end the procedures. It said that there was no federal interest, and the matter should be left to the states. Trump was speaking to gain favor when the best response would have been that it is a states issue, and Florida and others have spoken (both against and for).
Gwjack
Yes! We should not have a primary at all! Just coronate Trump and be done with it!
—> Lastly, since Trump has repeatedly criticized DeSantis for signing a 6-week ban (as have other governors), it is fair to have him answer at what week, if any, he says abortion should be banned. Lacking that, it is fair to say Trump supports abortion up to birth.
Trump made it clear both sides should come together and agree on a number of weeks.
Your second assertion is silly FRiend.
Trump also made it clear it is wrong to abort babies in late term abortion.
Yep. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen between now and November 5, 2024.
—> He has been 100% ineffective against them
You haven’t paid attention, if you really believe that assertion.
This same post is listed "multiple" times under today's list of Forum posts. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the past weren't forum posts/articles listed only 1x on the Forum post page?
There is only one issue.
Restoration of the republic.
Without restoration of our republic, the rest is moot.
And a distraction.
Trump is the only candidate who will work to restore our republic.
The rest are Deep State’s.
That is the negative hazard of populism....people may tend to sacrifice their values and individuality for the cult of personality.
Agree.
Wars often begin in the 4th quarter of the year.
Trump has not demonstrated any ability to take on the Deep State in his first term. Now, he wants to negotiate with them.
He says he wants to go after Biden, but he dropped the investigations into Hillary as soon as he won.
DeSantis and Ravaswamy both have plans to dismantle the federal government. I say it is time to give someone else a chance who will not negotiate our right to life or firearm rights away to the Deep state.
Empty desperate barrel make the most noise & DeSantis is gaslighting.
Most people realize that this time--more than ever before--our decision makes a difference. If we screw this up, we are headed for a world of real misery. A lot of people are going to die at the hands of the Marxists. History has shown us that over and over again.
The people supporting Trump aren't sacrificing their values for populism or cult of personality this time. A lot of people who don't even like Trump realize that he is our only chance (and even then, the odds of defeating the Marxists are slim).
To work out an agreement that no late term, no partial birth abortions, post birth abortions are legal in America and to protect the babies born alive after abortion by mandating they receive care.
“Trump is not perfect by a long shot, but he will lead a counter-revolution to the Marxist takeover of our country.”
Next he’ll walk on water and heal the blind.
Did trump not say he’d work with democrats on abortion? He did.
“To work out an agreement that no late term, no partial birth abortions, post birth abortions are legal in America and to protect the babies born alive after abortion by mandating they receive care.”
How does DeSantis think that is dangerous?
Maybe some of these DeSantis-bots might explain that to us.
As with Reno89519, front and center.
All that matters to me on this issue, is that NOW we have a choice in regards to abortion and with our votes we can affect change in regards to it.
Before Roe was overturned, that was not the case because the supreme court had magically made abortion a constitutional right. So we had no say in the matter.
I will forever give thanks to Trump for that, no matter what else.
"I mean I think there are issues that come from your beliefs and I think that you advance those because you think they’re right.”
If Ron really believes this, why didn't he include a legal penalty for both the woman and the doctor breaking the six week ban or failing to meet the hurdles on exceptions for rape, incest and health of the woman? Seems a good place for manslaughter charges.
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