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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Isn't a Trump Alternative — He's a Far-Right Bigot Too (like, omigod...Teen Vogue alert)
Teen Vogue ^ | DECEMBER 8, 2022 | LEXI MCMENAMIN

Posted on 12/18/2022 2:57:22 PM PST by DoodleBob

Florida governor Ron DeSantis is certainly having a moment. In the wake of the failed “red wave” the media kept warning us about, DeSantis has been declared “the biggest winner of an otherwise dark election cycle for Republicans.” This week, Time magazine — responsible, you may recall, for the 2014 “transgender tipping point” — short-listed DeSantis for its 2022 person of the year award. This award isn’t necessarily granted to the best person in a given year: For example, past recipients include DeSantis’s current nemesis and then president-elect Donald Trump in 2016, and Adolf Hitler in 1938. But it’s another example of the media buzz around DeSantis and his possible presidential candidacy.

CNN’s recently laid-off pundit Chris Cillizza praised the timing of a potential 2024 run for DeSantis, calling him “the hottest thing going in the Republican Party” right now. Many other outlets have described DeSantis as, somehow, a substantive and possibly preferable alternative to Trump:

-From a profile in The New Yorker, June 2022: “The Florida governor channels the same rage as the former president, but with greater discipline.”

-An op-ed in Politico, July 2022: “Liberals should welcome Ron DeSantis’s rise.”

-The Tampa Bay Times, just two days after the election: “DeSantis emerges as the Trump alternative after Florida landslide.”

-An op-ed from a National Review staffer in the Washington Post, November 2022: “DeSantis would pave the way for a post-Trump GOP return to normal.”

A DeSantis presidential campaign seems all but sure to be coming. A recent poll of Utah voters found the governor in the lead among potential 2024 GOP presidential nominees, with Representative Liz Cheney and Trump trailing him in second and third place, respectively. In classic I’m-about-to-run-for-president fashion, DeSantis has a memoir coming out in February with HarperCollins. Although current Florida law (reinstated in 2018) would require DeSantis to step down from the governor’s seat to run for president, state Republicans are floating a rewrite of that policy to ease DeSantis’s road to the White House.

The normalization of this kind of far-right demagogue by the media is a dangerous mistake. DeSantis is not a more “presidential” or “respectable” version of Trump; he’s a politician who embraced Trump closely until the moment it stopped being politically useful, and who represents a grave threat to residents of Florida and the whole US. DeSantis has wrecked Florida’s policies on COVID, voting, education, protesting, immigration, reproductive rights, and more. Don’t buy the BS.

Governor DeSantis's entire political ideology can be distilled down to opposing what he refers to as "the woke left." He has used this term to categorize companies and individuals, such as the NCAA, after it refused to hold events in states like Florida that were legislating on trans youth in sports; Ben & Jerry’s for criticizing Israel; the Walt Disney Company for opposing Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” policy.

And in 2021, DeSantis pushed a proposal he called the “Stop WOKE” Act, restricting education on race, which he tied to “woke ideology” or “a form of cultural Marxism.” The Stop WOKE Act was challenged in courts and DeSantis staffers were asked what “woke” actually means. The governor's general counsel, per the Washington Post, defined it as “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” Florida, DeSantis said in his November acceptance speech, is “where woke goes to die.”

So by these definitions, DeSantis is making his fiefdom one where, if you say there are systemic injustices in American society, you are not welcome. This doesn’t sound like a gentler alternative to Trump. In fact, this might make it harder to figure out where he and Trump (and the rest of the Republican mascots) deviate.

Even though many candidates who backed “stop the steal” lost their races, others, including DeSantis, did not. As pointed out by the Tallahassee Democrat, DeSantis has never contradicted Trump’s accusation that the 2020 election was stolen. Furthermore, he signed into law a slate of election-related legislation increasing barriers to voting that were reliant on the grand “stop the steal” lie.

Soon after coming into existence, DeSantis’s Office of Election Crimes and Security — a.k.a. his “voting police” — made 20 arrests for “illegal” voting; 15 of those arrested were Black voters. (At least one charge of voter fraud was later thrown out by a state judge.) Videos of the arrests that spread across social media showed the voters to be confused about what they had done wrong.

After initially putting COVID-19 safeguards into place, by the fall of 2020, DeSantis’s stance on the virus was that “the government, apart from protecting the elderly and making treatments available, should do almost nothing,” according to The New Yorker. Since spring 2020, more than 83,000 Floridians have died from COVID — that’s one in 258 residents. And in spite of DeSantis's comments about protecting the state’s elderly, Florida has the worst COVID death rate in the country for elders: Three-fourths of the state’s COVID deaths include the elderly.

The Palm Beach Post’s editorial board traced these outcomes back to DeSantis’s dismissive COVID policies. During the first year of the pandemic, he and his staffers cast doubt on the number of deaths, though one center at Columbia Law School said the data suggested deaths were actually undercounted. DeSantis lifted the state’s COVID business restrictions in September 2020, prior to the existence of a COVID vaccine, and ended all public health executive orders for the pandemic in May 2021.

Under DeSantis, Florida has also become more hostile to protesters. In 2020, while then President Trump fearmongered about “anarchy” overtaking Democrat-run cities, protesters fighting for racial justice were repeatedly hit by cars driven into protests — and some states, like Florida, decided to side with the drivers vs. the protesters. In spring 2021, DeSantis signed into law an “anti-riot” bill that lowers the bar for charging protesters with third-degree felonies and shields drivers who hit protesters with their vehicle from civil liability.

In April, before the fall of Roe v. Wade, DeSantis signed into law a ban on abortions starting at 15 weeks of pregnancy, without exception for rape or incest. Though DeSantis waffled on making further explicit statements on abortion in the months leading to the midterms, state Republicans won a supermajority in the Florida legislature in November, and are considering a more restrictive abortion ban starting at 12 weeks, or three months into pregnancy, potentially including an exception for rape and incest.

Inarguably, DeSantis is in part to blame for the nationwide spread of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation that has targeted young people, with his very public Don’t Say Gay campaign becoming a trendsetter for conservative ideologues controlling states across the country. Attacks on the LGBTQ+ community feel ever-increasing, and this feeling is borne out in the number of bills and laws introduced or passed that affect trans youth in more than half of states.

While the DeSantis administration’s legislation and messaging emphasizes that it is focused on children (What a moral accomplishment, targeting kids! Give the governor a cookie!), it has resurfaced early 20th-century laws to justify targeting the liquor licenses of businesses that feature drag programming. If you’ve been paying attention this year, you likely know attacks on drag shows are functionally a dog whistle in the broader campaign to target LGBTQ+ people, adults included. Plus, DeSantis's focus on schools already affects adults: Think of all the LGBTQ+ teachers impacted by these policies.

DeSantis’s lack of humanity also extends to immigration policy. He and Texas governor Greg Abbott forced migrants to travel thousands of miles from their respective states to “liberal” sanctuary cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago; others were directed to the residence of Vice President Kamala Harris. The Texas Tribune reported that Florida, under DeSantis’s leadership, “flew planes to Texas, allegedly lured migrants onto the flights by promising jobs, housing and services, and a free trip to Boston, and then left those migrants in Martha’s Vineyard [about a hundred miles away].… Three of those migrants have now sued DeSantis in federal court,” alleging they were manipulated and misled. In this process, the absolute cravenness of treating human beings like cargo for transport has apparently been overlooked by DeSantis.

Maxwell Frost, Florida’s newest congressperson, cut his activist teeth pushing for gun control after the 2018 Parkland shooting, which led to the creation of March for Our Lives. For his part, DeSantis said earlier this year, he plans to remove particular gun control restrictions in the state. And this summer, the governor signed a bill appointing an armed law enforcement member for each of the state’s schools, plus he wants to address the state’s teacher shortage by recruiting retired law enforcement officers. So, like, cops in schools, in all the ways he can attempt it.

If all this wasn’t enough, DeSantis is also a hypocrite. No one was quicker to compare him to Trump than DeSantis himself, a few years ago. In a 2018 campaign ad, DeSantis “builds a wall” with one of his children and reads another (seen later in the commercial wearing a MAGA onesie) a book about Trump, with “Ron DeSantis: Pitbull Trump Defender” stated in all caps at the bottom. Given the advent of conservatives winning by flip-flopping on Trump, such as J.D. Vance, the hypocrisy here is worth identifying, even if it not surprising.

Just like Trump, DeSantis is a wealthy, pro-corporate, Ivy League-educated politician masquerading as a populist. Further empowering someone like this, especially after the chaos his governorship has wrought, would have serious consequences. But holding this against DeSantis, or holding up DeSantis as if he’s unique from Trump, as if their individual wrongdoings are what we need to stop, misses the forest for the trees. We need to reject this normalization at the root.

Media commentary that separates DeSantis from the broader conservative campaign to shred any remaining social safety net for marginalized communities in the US plays into a concept presented by the philosopher Hannah Arendt: In one of her writings about the Holocaust, which she witnessed, she coins her theory of the “banality of evil. As described by theorist Judith Butler, “If a crime against humanity had become in some sense ‘banal’ it was precisely because it was committed in a daily way, systematically, without being adequately named and opposed.”

DeSantis’s tactics — and their movement into the mainstream — don’t exist in a vacuum; they are empowered by a media ecosystem that is all too eager to sanitize the governor's image and thereby enable him. Arendt, Butler wrote for The Guardian in 2011, “was trying to point to the way in which the crime had become for the criminals accepted, routinized, and implemented without moral revulsion and political indignation and resistance.” This banality — this “normal” — should never be accepted as such.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chat; chriscillizza; clintonnonnews; cnn; desantis; florida; leximcmenamin; newsforumabuse; rondesantis; smokybackroomforum; teenvogue; tldr
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To: DoodleBob

Are those rings for attaching a dog leash?


41 posted on 12/18/2022 3:23:45 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: escapefromboston
Republicans thinking they will go easy on him just because he’s not Trump are deluding themselves.

I don't think I've heard literally anyone say that.

42 posted on 12/18/2022 3:23:51 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Rocco DiPippo

The feeling is mutual.


43 posted on 12/18/2022 3:24:35 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: DoodleBob

Get my weightiest intellectual commentary from Teen Vogue...


44 posted on 12/18/2022 3:25:48 PM PST by 4Liberty (Kamala’s relatives owned slaves.)
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To: jdsteel
I think everyone understands that the Democrats will label and attack DeSantis the exact same way they have gone after Trump.

The difference is that the attacks won't stick the same because DeSantis doesn't commit the same mistakes as does Trump.

45 posted on 12/18/2022 3:25:50 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Allegra

One thing I forgot to mention: *my* pronouns are “Your Majesty” and “Your Highness”.


46 posted on 12/18/2022 3:27:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: DoodleBob

Teen Vogue? Too funny!


47 posted on 12/18/2022 3:29:28 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: All

Folks laughing at this.

Look at the article where some colleges have 40% LGBTQ students now.

Young idiots voting 90% impacted the election in Arizona.

Libs start the indoctrination young and it continues 25/7/365 on all platforms. Everything is political to them because that’s their religion.

Recruiting them to the Pink Mafia is an easy way to keep them voting D for the rest of their lives.


48 posted on 12/18/2022 3:30:59 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Here’s my take on the present republican situation. I think we should all back DeSantis with no reservations. Trump should bask in his achievements and become the elder statesman. His policies were genius but his twittering and appointees not so much. There is only going to be one Donald Trump who exposed the swamp and made bitter enemies of every left wing cook in this galaxy. We republicans need to unify around a candidate, learn to cheat with mail in ballots like the rats and learn how to “cure” ballots after the voting is done!


49 posted on 12/18/2022 3:31:49 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: Rocco DiPippo; Feckless; jdsteel
As I wrote elsewhere, there is a popular theoretical question - "would you have killed Hitler in the 30s if you knew what was to come?" Many people answer "yes."

True, we haven't perfected time travel. But then 2020 came along.

I believe many on the left feel the same way about Trump. Lacking a time machine, the 2020-equivalent question was "would you steal the election by whatever means, to remove Trump from office? Because, ya know, he's Hitler."

We are seeing their "yes" right now.

I bet most Bidet supporters sure as heck see lots of problems and believe that the election was fraudulent, and it is very likely that Trump won by a mile. But, because Orange Man Bad, these Guardians of Civilization grip onto whatever half-baked rationale for the "legitimacy" of the results, to keep the inquiry into irregularities stopped. Then, they crank up the volume to 11 on these Jan 6 "hearings", because they feel morally justified.

2020 was a de facto going back in time to kill Hitler. The corollary, is that the left needs to keep it up, because unlike in their theoretical head where Hitler is dead, Trump is still a fighting force AND Puddin' Head isn't strong.

Clarence Thomas got it right, when he wrote about the protests (threats?) from the Roe leak: "We are becoming addicted to wanting particular outcomes, not living with the outcomes we don't like."

This new dogma - "anything goes if we are morally justified" is an extension of this article:

.... What (liberals) really want is liberal Sharia law, a secular theocracy. The minimum wage, gender equality, nationalized health care, and global warming—whatever their practical virtues—are not just expedient policy prescriptions. They are essential aspects of the liberal fatwa. Feminism, deconstruction, and gender theory are not just academic abstractions up for discussion among liberal academics: They are articles of their religious creed. Question them and you are not just wrong—you are a heretic.

...for them, politics is the means to secular salvation...political failure is not just a setback on the road

50 posted on 12/18/2022 3:32:12 PM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Great, another young skull full of mush bloviating.


51 posted on 12/18/2022 3:33:15 PM PST by Jean2
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I think everyone understands that the Democrats will label and attack DeSantis the exact same way they have gone after Trump. The difference is that the attacks won't stick the same because DeSantis doesn't commit the same mistakes as does Trump.

The media has already roasted DeSantis as the Grim Reaper of Florida for going easy on COVID restrictions (Remember "DeathSantis?"). Who would think the media wouldn't be anything but scorched earth on him?
52 posted on 12/18/2022 3:33:55 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Domo Arigato, Mr. Rubio. Domo Arigato, Mr. Rubio. )
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To: Paladin2
"DiW for Ms. America..."

Thankfully, my high-heeled, spangly-body suit, flaming baton-twirling days are well behind me, LOL!


53 posted on 12/18/2022 3:34:02 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: DoodleBob

“The New School for Social Research”

Aren’t they the freakin imbecile students who are demanding all A’s regardless of whether they show up to class or not?


54 posted on 12/18/2022 3:34:33 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

And it bounced right off him because what he did worked.


55 posted on 12/18/2022 3:36:12 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Anyone who would believe that is too stupid to be a Freeper.


56 posted on 12/18/2022 3:36:32 PM PST by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Gay State Conservative

LOL - mine are “zorch” and “zigby.”


57 posted on 12/18/2022 3:41:06 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Gay State Conservative

I prefer “it”, also. For anyone who insists he is not what he is.


58 posted on 12/18/2022 3:43:02 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Somebody from Wisc. HAS to win it, apparently...


59 posted on 12/18/2022 3:43:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Jeff Chandler
Hey Lexi, that dairy cow wants her nose ring back.

or dairy sow?

Proverbs 11:22 Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.

60 posted on 12/18/2022 3:43:53 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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