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Ukraine and Putin: Russian leader is not crazy, he's consistent
Fox news ^ | 03/01/2022 | Judith Miller

Posted on 03/01/2022 1:03:21 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The mad hatter theme is now becoming conventional wisdom among some of the foreign policy elite and media.

Spurred on by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who said the Russian president was "erratic" and increasingly "delusional, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who called Russia’s leader "unhinged," many in the foreign policy establishment have embraced the notion that only a mad man would put his nation’s nuclear forces on alert after invading a neighboring state, claiming self-defense.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenvoters; consistent; crazy; dementiajoe; neanderthaljoe; nohescrazy; projecting; putin; ukraine; vlad
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To: Codeflier

Yup, you are right.


61 posted on 03/01/2022 3:50:41 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: packagingguy

Volodymy Zelensky, back from the Russophobia-drenched Munich Security Conference where he was hailed like a Messiah, saying that the 1994 Budapest memorandum should be revised and Ukraine should be nuclear-rearmed.

https://original.antiwar.com/Edward_Curtin/2022/02/27/us-nato-is-in-the-grip-of-a-demonic-death-wish-and-the-entire-world-is-threatened/


62 posted on 03/01/2022 3:56:47 PM PST by MarMema
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To: SteelPSUGOP

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again... US should stay the hell out of it.

But we also shouldn’t be given the KGB thug free headspace either.


63 posted on 03/01/2022 4:01:23 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: ARW

And you don’t “fix” a Ukraine by marauding through the country like Mongols.


64 posted on 03/01/2022 4:59:28 PM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Cage the libs.. now. )
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To: MarMema
Russophobia--drenched Munich Security Conference

"Russophobia" was proven correct with Putin's crazy invasion.

65 posted on 03/01/2022 5:16:51 PM PST by tlozo
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To: SoConPubbie

Nope.. wrong again. What’s really disappointing is FReepers like yourself who hook to the bandwagon of a Russian dictator who by the way doesn’t give two sh*ts about the “NWO” or any other boogeyman issue you conspiracy theorists glom onto.

I’ll bet you’ve never had a conversation with anyone from Eastern Europe who had to live under Russian occupation. You’d likely dismiss anything they’d tell you about the brutality of it as NWO propaganda.

I truly thought you were better than that. Damn, was I wrong.


66 posted on 03/01/2022 5:33:14 PM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Cage the libs.. now. )
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To: Dead Corpse

Is your price for what you believe a video that shows nothing but has text saying that Russians shot a civilian?

If you are going to be controlled set your price higher.


67 posted on 03/01/2022 5:50:02 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: ScottinVA
Nope.. wrong again. What’s really disappointing is FReepers like yourself who hook to the bandwagon of a Russian dictator who by the way doesn’t give two sh*ts about the “NWO” or any other boogeyman issue you conspiracy theorists glom onto.

You are basing your opinion concerning the Ukrainian War based on knowledge on information provided to you by your enemies: The Democrats, The Democrat Press, etc.

And you have aligned yourself with the worst people possible, known liars: Soros, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, the Establishment, and Globalists.

The Information used to arrive at your opinions has already proven, in many cases, to be nothing but Propaganda.

Get back to me when you have actual proof, not just emotional propaganda. Quit using the propaganda to prop up your position, and I will seriously consider listening to you, in the meantime, the Propaganda just muddies the water.
68 posted on 03/01/2022 6:08:50 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ScottinVA

Because many know that the issue isn’t so simple minded. It is easy to think in terms of black and white, I’ll grant that. But if you want to believe in the truth then it requires you put aside the lazy/simplistic views.

When the US blockaded Cuba and prepared to invade it, was it the aggressor? Or was it a reasonable response to the positioning of a military threat against the US? Not black/white.

For those that have been tracking it, we’ve seen an absurd and illogical stance toward Russia starting from the day they overthrew Marxism and bent over backward to befriend us. They provided any KGB files the US wanted. The people of Russia wanted closer ties to the US, who they admired. They even worked with the US to cut down their nuclear forces.
We (Clinton, et all), in response, bombed their ally for reasons that had no US national interested, cutting those leaders in Russia off at the knees. The US then maneuvered economic and pipeline issues that threatened Russia. Then, inexplicable, NATO started moving Eastward even though the enemy (the USSR) didn’t exist anymore. Russia has for 10 years now, consistently and clearly, been saying that they can not tolerate a hostile force on their border, just as they would not expect the US to tolerate a hostile force based in Mexico or Canada.

Add to this that all evidence is that the US pushed the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014. Like the red/blue areas in the US, Eastern Ukraine were the votes that put that government in power. As a result of that, the reality that the Ukraine had just disbanded as a country, and the fact that they were Russians put on the wrong side of a administrative line left over from USSR times, the east broke away. As Americans our founding principal is that when a government threatens life, liberty, you have a right/duty to form new system. They did this. Ukraine then spent the last 8 years with 65,000 soldiers attacking (and killing) these people who have a right to live in freedom and peace.

If we had a group of historic Americans living in an enclave physically next to us who were being attacked by Chinese country do you not think the citizens of this country would feel we should protect them?

So yeah, the Russians are the aggressor in the exact same way France attacked the Boston area of England during the 1770’s. The US won that war so we get to write in the history books that the French were friends who valued our goal for freedom and independence.

You can be for, or against, what Russia does, but to simplify it down to “they are bad”, “we are good” is missing virtually everything that has occurred for 30 years.


69 posted on 03/01/2022 6:10:11 PM PST by TheLooseThread
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To: SoConPubbie

Nope.

Why do you think the pro-Russian garbage you subscribe to is accurate? Why do you support that Mongol thug Putin?


70 posted on 03/01/2022 6:20:28 PM PST by ScottinVA (К черту Путина, к черту Россию)
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To: TheLooseThread

Nice theories.

Have you ever had an in-depth discussion with someone who had to live under Russian occupation?


71 posted on 03/01/2022 6:29:16 PM PST by ScottinVA (К черту Путина, к черту Россию)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

The story will shift quickly. When Communist China takes Taiwan, Putin will be yesterdays news.


72 posted on 03/01/2022 6:30:07 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: C210N

Thanks, will check it out


73 posted on 03/01/2022 6:46:47 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: TheLooseThread
We're discussing it over here. Including verifying the license tag, rough translation of the speech, and follow up videos.

I did not take the video personally... Even that would be called into question by those who have already made up their minds.

What are your criteria for proof? Have you applied them to what YOU already believe? If not, keep your teeth together...

74 posted on 03/01/2022 7:01:16 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: TheLooseThread

Wrong... The Russians are the aggressor here the same way Iraq was when they attack Kuwait.

Piss poor excuses for hegemony and expansion of territory.

Period.


75 posted on 03/01/2022 7:03:16 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Dead Corpse

Those are not Russian soldiers. Pretty sure they are azov/Ukrainian
outside of mariupol, where they were stopping fleeing civilians and killing them.

I am having a friend check me on this though and I will let you know.


76 posted on 03/02/2022 1:19:30 AM PST by MarMema
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To: TheLooseThread

They are not Russians. I am getting it checked but I think this is from the Ukrainian Aviv who were stopping cars leaving Mariupol.


77 posted on 03/02/2022 1:22:26 AM PST by MarMema
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To: ScottinVA

Good. Rather than donate your keyboard skills getting civilians killed, why don’t you get off your butt and go help them fight. You won’t because you don’t care about Ukraine.


78 posted on 03/02/2022 2:53:00 AM PST by ARW
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To: ARW

That’s cute. My opposition to Putin “gets civilians killed,” eh? You’ve got it completely backwards.


79 posted on 03/02/2022 3:28:38 AM PST by ScottinVA (К черту Путина, к черту Россию)
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To: ScottinVA

No. You’re posting of propaganda encouraging g civilians to fight is what’s getting them killed. Learn to read.


80 posted on 03/02/2022 4:03:26 AM PST by ARW
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