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VMware, Twitter Cut Pay for Remote Workers Fleeing Bay Area
Bloomberg via Yahoo ^ | 9/11/2020 | Nico Grant, Sophie Alexander and Kurt Wagner

Posted on 09/11/2020 1:14:18 PM PDT by RightGeek

Link only because Bloomberg.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
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They ought to give them pay raises for optimizing their circumstances.
1 posted on 09/11/2020 1:14:18 PM PDT by RightGeek
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To: RightGeek

Absolutely, they should be forced to stay in the area they helped flush into the sewer.


2 posted on 09/11/2020 1:16:43 PM PDT by LouAvul (The wheels of America are coming off and the media have stolen the lug nuts.)
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To: RightGeek

That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.


3 posted on 09/11/2020 1:17:42 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: RightGeek

I can already hear it: “That’s not how we did it in ‘ the bay area’.”. Standby for heavy rolls to starboard.


4 posted on 09/11/2020 1:19:10 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: LouAvul

I agree. Even with pay cuts we are going to see a lot of these liberal morons move to red states with a lower cost of living, and try to implement the same policies that they ran away from...


5 posted on 09/11/2020 1:20:20 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: usconservative

“That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.”

Probably not. It is not uncommon for national and international companies to pay different salaries for the same job based on the cost of living where the office or facility is located. And if someone chooses to transfer from one office to another, it is perfectly legal to adjust their pay accordingly. This is just an extension of that practice.


6 posted on 09/11/2020 1:23:00 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

OTOH, a lot of coders that I know are not necessarily all that liberal, they’ve just had to work in these areas. I think that a good chunk of developers trend libertarian and are quite simpatico with places where real Americans are the majority.


7 posted on 09/11/2020 1:24:54 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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You know, after reading the article, I'm somewhat on the companies' side on this. It doesn't make sense to pay a San Francisco salary for a Dubuque cost of living.

Hopefully, this is a longstanding company policy, or there could be lawsuits.

8 posted on 09/11/2020 1:25:17 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: RightGeek
What if I "move" to a mail drop box in San Jose (while really living in Alabama). Since all they have is a mailing address and a Bay Area cell phone number how will they know. And even paying Kookifornia taxes would be less than the pay cut. About the only problem would be insurance with is pretty regional based. And if they look at medical treatment and see a lot more "bit by possum" rather than "stepped on a needle hidden in human feces".
9 posted on 09/11/2020 1:25:40 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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From a business perspective I don’t blame them. Many salaries are based upon the area you live in. For example salaries in the NY area are considerably higher for the same work in Florid due to cost of living. This will get interesting to see how companies address this issue for telecommuters.


10 posted on 09/11/2020 1:28:21 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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There are pay differential calculations for civil servants in various cities. I remember at the time the Washington DC came nowhere close to meeting the actual housing cost difference so moving to Washington was seen as bad for your wallet, bad for your life, good for your career if you can get a quick promotion or two and then move back home.


11 posted on 09/11/2020 1:32:02 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: RightGeek

A huge portion of most folks negotiated salary is cost of living of the location of the office where the work is going to be performed.

What did you think? You would negotiate to live/work in San Fran and then work from home in Omaha?

Stupid as fook covid snowflakes.


12 posted on 09/11/2020 1:42:15 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: KarlInOhio

You reslly think a mail drop in San Jose is going to fool big tech?


13 posted on 09/11/2020 1:43:19 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: usconservative

This is a COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) and happens EVERYWHERE.

If you live in California, your COL is very high. If you move east, your COL goes down. Why should they continue to pay you California COL?


14 posted on 09/11/2020 1:44:23 PM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: CA Conservative

“It is not uncommon for national and international companies to pay different salaries for the same job based on the cost of living ...”

I’m glad someone pointed that out.


15 posted on 09/11/2020 1:47:28 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: RedStateRocker
a good chunk of developers trend libertarian..

Lessee. Open borders. Vending machine narcotics. Liberty of sexual preference (i.e., pro fag). Freedom of choice (i.e., pro abortion). Etc.

Nope. Libtardians have nothing in common with true Americans.

16 posted on 09/11/2020 1:55:05 PM PDT by LouAvul (The wheels of America are coming off and the media have stolen the lug nuts.)
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“It is not uncommon for national and international companies to pay different salaries for the same job based on the cost of living ...”

“I’m glad someone pointed that out.”

Welcome to reality!

However, if they owned homes, they will be able to still cash out pretty big. About 15 years ago, my realtor was telling me about a young couple in the their mid-30’s moving out of CA and they were looking for a 4BR with a basement where I live. They had 300K CASH from the sale of their Calif. starter home. At that time, 300K here would get you a very nice house - especially if you were 35 years old and had a home with NO MORTGAGE.


17 posted on 09/11/2020 1:58:27 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: LouAvul

Pro guns, low taxes and a dislike of socialism. What you or anyone think of what people put in their body or who they sleep with makes no difference to anyone who isn’t a fascist pervert retard. Libertarians are wrong on the open borders, though.


18 posted on 09/11/2020 2:03:08 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: RightGeek

I had a guy working for me in Palo Alto 20 years ago. It was obscenely expensive then. He moved to a new satellite office we opened in North Carolina and he kept his CA salary in NC. He lived like royalty. It always seemed like a bad decision to me, but I was overruled by my boss and his boss. We didn’t want to lose the guy.

I’m both not surprised and surprised that these companies are trying this.


19 posted on 09/11/2020 2:06:49 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: Tench_Coxe

“You know, after reading the article, I’m somewhat on the companies’ side on this. It doesn’t make sense to pay a San Francisco salary for a Dubuque cost of living.”

I can only support this if you get a wage increase when working in San Francisco for a company in Dubuque.


20 posted on 09/11/2020 2:09:33 PM PDT by beef (Use a VPN, use Tor, and get a shortwave radio. Oh, and ACAB- All Commies Are Bastards)
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