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4 Houston police officers fired after shooting man on the ground 21 times during alleged mental health crisis
ABC ^ | 09 11 2020 | Meredith Deliso

Posted on 09/11/2020 8:32:09 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Four Houston police officers were fired Thursday after a months-long investigation of a fatal shooting found that they were "objectively unreasonable" in discharging 21 rounds at a man in distress.

On April 21 at around 9 p.m., multiple officers responded to several 911 calls about a man who was running through highway traffic.

Officers approached Nicolas Chavez, 27, in a parking lot, where he was running while holding a metal object, police said. During a roughly 15-minute interaction, officers shot Chavez with stun guns and bean bags while attempting to "stop him from harming himself," Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said in a video compilation of the body-camera footage that was also released Thursday.

Throughout the incident, five officers fired 24 rounds at Chavez, Acevedo said at an at-times emotional press briefing Thursday. Three of those shots were found to be "objectionably reasonable," while the final barrage of 21 shots by four officers was not, he said, because Chavez "was at his greatest level of incapacitation."

Acevedo detailed that before the 21 shots in question, police officers had shot Chavez more than once, discharged five cartridges of stun guns and deployed six bean bags.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
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To: yesthatjallen

“Acevedo detailed that before the 21 shots in question,”

The only question is; was it a good shoot or not? Once the shooting starts, all bets are off. They can’t have a discussion about who is going to shoot, or how many rounds they should shoot. Every officer is going to shoot until they perceive the threat to be over. Four officers, about 16 rounds per gun, that’s just the way it is.


21 posted on 09/11/2020 10:07:50 AM PDT by suthener
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To: yesthatjallen

22 posted on 09/11/2020 10:08:08 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Stun guns and beanbags do not qualify as “shooting” him. A deliberately misleading headline. Trying to get the savages into an uproar.


23 posted on 09/11/2020 10:12:42 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: BereanBrain

Disgusting. Completely pathetic.


24 posted on 09/11/2020 10:12:50 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: yesthatjallen

The Houston mayor and police chief are corrupt as they come. So is the Harris County leadership.


25 posted on 09/11/2020 10:15:03 AM PDT by John Locke Forever (houston)
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To: PGR88
Chavez was transported to a local hospital, where he died, authorities said. The medical examiner later determined that Chavez had 29 wounds from bullets, skip rounds (bullets that struck the ground first) and bullet fragments entering and exiting, according to Acevedo.

No, after using their nerf guns, they used their real guns, killing him.

Also, he had alcohol and meth in his system.

26 posted on 09/11/2020 10:17:48 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: BereanBrain

No, shoot the shit out of the criminals. The public pays 10’s of thousands of dollars to train police. They are Our INVESTMENT towards a civil society.


27 posted on 09/11/2020 10:24:47 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: Rebelbase
Until it ends up around the perps neck.

If it doesn't strangle him to death it's still amounts to a hanging. That will be 'the narrative' if anything goes wrong.

And are the police going to bag 'unarmed black men' like animals?

Any good intention will be reduced to 'racism'.

28 posted on 09/11/2020 10:27:45 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Looks like that stopped him from harming himself.


29 posted on 09/11/2020 11:18:17 AM PDT by I want the USA back (19 religious fanatics flew occupied planes into occupied buildings killing 3,000. WTC Lives Matter.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Hold the police union liable for violating systemic sixth amendment rights.


30 posted on 09/11/2020 11:18:43 AM PDT by Kalija (I've seen the future and left it behind)
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To: Rebelbase

Thanks, I’ve been hoping something like that Bolo Wrap would be invented. Additionally, netting could be used to incapacitate.


31 posted on 09/11/2020 11:35:02 AM PDT by deks
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To: yesthatjallen

“You have no idea how that cop that day left the house. You don’t know if he woke up on the wrong side of the bed, you don’t know if he had an argument at home with his significant other, you don’t know if one of his kids said something to him and he left the house steaming. Or maybe he just left the house saying that, ‘Today is going to be the end for one of these Black people.’”
—Lebron James


32 posted on 09/11/2020 11:44:48 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Fido969

Acevedo is a pandering sleeze.

And a camera whore....the likes of Sheila Jackson Sleeze. During the march for Floyd, he joined in, laid face down on the ground and was displaying gang signs. This guy is a real piece of work!!


33 posted on 09/11/2020 12:25:08 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: antidemoncrat
So the police should have waited for the Social worker to appear with the bouquet of flowers?

Well, if he had allergies, that could be considered torture or something.

The article above was so poorly written, I can't really make any decisions at all on this particular case at all. Did they use their handguns at all? Did the tazer shots actually connect or were they misses? Same questions for the bean bags. There was really no useful content in the article at all.

34 posted on 09/11/2020 1:23:59 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: subterfuge

since when is being a retarded mentally ill person a “criminal”?


35 posted on 09/11/2020 2:07:11 PM PDT by BereanBrain (qu)
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To: yesthatjallen

I dunno. Five officers, 24 rounds. Less than 5 rounds apiece. The standard is to shoot to end the threat, I believe. Were they firing simultaneously? I wouldn’t expect them to sort it out while they’re firing. Once the threshold warranting lethal force is crossed, are they supposed to take turns shooting, or does each one fire?


36 posted on 09/11/2020 2:38:00 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: deks

The 1987 movie, the Running Man(Schwarzenegger) had the bolo net gun used on him.


37 posted on 09/11/2020 4:00:48 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Drew68
Bingo

The autopsy revealed that Chavez had methamphetamine, amphetamine and ethanol in his system, according to Acevedo.

You wonder why the bean bags and tasers didn't work.
38 posted on 09/11/2020 6:41:39 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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