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Why is there such a focus on the COVID-19 positivity rate versus testing and treating the most vulnerable?
American Thinker ^ | 07/27/2020 | Jack Hellner

Posted on 07/27/2020 6:55:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Illinois and New York currently have low positivity rates and the media treats their governors as if they are geniuses.

But over four months into the virus, through July 21st:

Florida has ten million more residents than Illinois, and 2,200 fewer deaths. Texas has 17.5 million more residents, and 3,200 fewer deaths. The positivity rate on deaths in Illinois is clearly much higher.

New York has almost 25% of deaths in the U.S. They have 28,000 more deaths than Florida, with two million fewer residents.

Yet the media constantly genuflects to Cuomo while ripping Desantis. Texas has 29,000 fewer deaths than New York, and ten million fewer residents, and we are told to follow New York’s policies. What garbage.

Aren’t deaths a better measure of results than positivity rates?

If you test the riskier population, you will have a higher positivity rate. If you focus on testing everyone, especially people with no symptoms, you will have a lower positivity rate. Why is that considered great?

If you wanted low positivity rates regarding health care you could: Test all women under forty and all men for breast cancer and other forms of cancer and heart disease. You would get a very low positivity rate, but we would have wasted a lot of money doing it and the results would be virtually worthless.

Here are low and high positivity rates on different things:

There is an extremely low positivity rate, lower than the seasonal flu, on children having COVID-19, dying from COVID-19 and passing the disease to older people, yet anyone over two has the same rules as 70-year olds and they are kept out of school.

There are a miniscule number of people who died only because of COVID-19, versus having other much more serious

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KEYWORDS: ccpvirus; covid19; infections; treatment; virus; wuhan

1 posted on 07/27/2020 6:55:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see.....To damage Trump, make people scared, keep the economy listless, implement vote by mail and then influence the election against Trump. Did I miss anything?


2 posted on 07/27/2020 6:58:15 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also its not a complete data set without the recovery numbers but you’ll never hear those...its good news and the media cant have that.


3 posted on 07/27/2020 6:58:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: SeekAndFind

Per my tyrannical governor, my teens will not be allowed to return to school (even to private school) until my county has “14 days of declining cases, of less than 80 cases per day.”

And 70% of the deaths—and I think the cases too— in my county are in nursing homes. Unfortunately there are 21 nursing homes in my county.


4 posted on 07/27/2020 7:03:47 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

Fear.
Fear is the tool..................


5 posted on 07/27/2020 7:08:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: SeekAndFind

right for testing to be meaningful, you need to get tested every day, imo


6 posted on 07/27/2020 7:13:56 AM PDT by thinden
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To: olivia3boys

olivia3boys wrote:

“Per my tyrannical governor, my teens will not be allowed to return to school (even to private school) until my county has “14 days of declining cases, of less than 80 cases per day.”

And 70% of the deaths—and I think the cases too— in my county are in nursing homes. Unfortunately there are 21 nursing homes in my county.”

All the more reason to homeschool and do remote classes.


7 posted on 07/27/2020 7:27:08 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

Illinois is much safer since Governor Fred Flintstone forced the State of Illinois to buy worthless junk face masks from the Chinese Company, LBP Manufacturing. For those of you unfamiliar with LBP, it is a massive supplier of PPE financed by the Pritzer Family.

The useless pieces of paper with two rubber bands shipped from China, by LBP using expensive overnight air freight, put $$Millions into Governor Putzkers bank account.

But because of the Governor Putzker’s quick actions, Illinois is beating the Virus!


8 posted on 07/27/2020 7:32:26 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: WildHighlander57

“Remote learning” is AWFUL. Soul deadening for teens (and younger even worse of course); watch this 3 min raw and sad youtube video to see what it is really like: numb - a short film // liv mcneil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSkbd6hRkXo&fbclid=IwAR3SLaDYm3Ji7yuAPvIvvFNWXWB0sOLv0hiJMyFru9v5HfaUTniMvuCS_IU

I work full time and don’t want to teach my kids Calculus and physics (really I can’t). I want my teens in their Christian schools, with their excellent teachers and their friends, their sports, their activities. Even with a mask, even if only two days a week—I want their feet on the floor of a classroom.

All of Europe and Asia reopened schools months ago. The United States has not and will not. It’s not good.


9 posted on 07/27/2020 7:38:03 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

None of the numerical data about COVID 19 can be believed.

The use of “positive tests”, and “cases”, seems to be interchangeable among the MSM. I don’t think they mean what they think they mean.

Any data they are providing locally, whether on TV news reports, or in the newspaper, is so out of context as to be completely meaningless.

We will never know the facts about any of the numbers, and the longer this goes on, the less likely it is that MSM makes any efforts to provide accuracy.


10 posted on 07/27/2020 7:43:34 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: V_TWIN
V_TWIN :" Also its not a complete data set without the recovery numbers but you’ll never hear those...its good news and the media cant have that."

That's true !
The numbers game is posed so that the infection rate always increases, with no accountability for recovery numbers.
Most people forget that originally, the cause for panic was fear of "overwhelming the hospitals";
thus having insufficient resources, personnel, and hardware to care for the ill.
Now the emphasis is on the numbers of new infections, and if you made an appointment for testing and failed to show up,
the test stations marked you as positive, even though you remained untested (deemed a positive case).
Some test stations in Florida reported 100% positive cases, which is not only an anomaly, but also inaccurate;
this makes any statistical information from these test sites unreliable, but their count gets added in as being credible.
The only true assessment of the covid-19 rate is current daily number of deaths,
and number of unavailable covid-19 hospital beds.

11 posted on 07/27/2020 7:59:07 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Some test stations in Florida reported 100% positive cases”

Yep I’m in Fla. Couple weeks ago a guy called in to my local daytime conservitive radio show...said he signed up for an appointment to get tested. Without even being tested he later received a letter stating he tested positive. To make it worse he knew someone else in line and later told them about it...they had same thing, signed up, never tested and got a letter stating they were positive.

We’ll never know the true positive infection rate.


12 posted on 07/27/2020 8:23:20 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN
V_TWIN :" ..signed up, never tested and got a letter stating they were positive.
We’ll never know the true positive infection rate."

Exactly true !
Now we know how the numbers are skewed by the testers,
but we don't know why .. yet.
Perhaps motivations of politics, economic re-reimbursement rate, or the need to produce numbers to justify their existence (fraud).
That is why the only accurate statistical model should be based on ICU hospital beds available, and deaths of tested patients;
untested deaths also skew the numbers and should not be counted in the statistics.

Your positive infection notification, despite never having been tested,is indicative of falsified statistical numbers,
and is not all that uncommon in Florida .
Next, we need to have the government determine why the false positives are being reported (!).
Many State governments are using these same statistics to justify whether they remain 'closed', or, become 'open'.

13 posted on 07/27/2020 8:52:45 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: V_TWIN

Why do we never hear how many of these positives are people with antibodies in their systems but were asymptomatic and recovered and how many tested were infectious? All we get are totals intermingled so that the left can keep the sheep scared of the big bad wolf.


14 posted on 07/27/2020 8:53:44 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

All this talk about totally eradicating death, disease and any threat to people living forever is nonsense — because everybody will die — as part of life and living.

The problem has not been the virus — as much as it has been the underlying health conditions — which the WHO, CDC, drug industry, health care interests, and self-proclaimed “philanthropists” have largely produced — with their promotion of erroneous health advice — particularly to eliminate animal-based (cholesterol) foods from their diet — in favor of plant-based (carbohydrates) — which have produced the predictable epidemic of modern metabolic diseases that account for nearly all the deaths.

Cholesterol is the essential building block of every cell, and cannot be replaced by carbohydrates — and so all the tissues begin to rot because the body does not maintain itself, but slowly begins to deteriorate. That is the diabetic process — and so most people suffer from one disease after another, which is an excellent business model for the doctors and health care providers — until their lifelong patients eventually succumb from these underlying lifelong health problems that are merely “treated” rather than actually cured, and in fact, are exacerbated by the very advice that makes them sick, and “captive” clientele.

If you hear Fauci or Gates tell it, the human population should be locked up forever — or at least until someone devises a vaccination or magic pill for their own immortality. That is not new. Throughout history, people have always desired “immortality” — even when there are no other problems like wars, and natural disasters to decimate the human population — as has been the case for the last 50 years. People get unused to the idea of dying — and think they should live forever, even in prolonged declining health. Politicians will even say inane and insane things, like “one person dying, is one too many, and we have to enact draconian measures so that can never happen.”

So now the thinking goes, if we don’t eat other animals, we can be in perfect health and live forever, when in fact, that is the root of this current madness — as the brain shrinks for lack of cholesterol, while accumulating sugar instead. In addition, the most widely-prescribed drug is one that specifically suppresses cholesterol production in the body — while advising people not only to eat carbohydrates, but to eat them constantly — so one’s blood sugar never goes down — which is also the condition of diabetes.

But instead of clearly recognizing this, they now pronounce that everything is caused by the new virus of the day — including the Covid-toes that have previously been characteristic of the diabetic symptom by which they have to eventually have their toes and feet amputated — because the sugar kills everything.

That’s the fundamental problem, and not the exposure and even infection from the virus. That is all being hidden and suppressed — and so is incurable — because the underlying health condition is not addressed. If they are, then not only does the virus lose its impact, but so does virtually most of the diseases of the 21st century that have been pronounced incurable — beginning with diabetes. They don’t need more and cheaper insulin, they need to stop putting more sugar (carbohydrates) into their bodies, and build up their health with essential amino acids and fatty acids which they’ve thought to ban and replace with highly processed foods like the fake meats. Just because it tastes the same — or even better, does not mean that it is optimally nutritious. The body will be the judge of that — and not just the political correctness of the day that self-appointed moral elites impose on all the others — in their infinite wisdom. That is the problem.


15 posted on 07/27/2020 9:13:42 AM PDT by MikeHu
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