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Don’t Rush To Judgment On The Atlanta Shooting: The death of Rayshard Brooks is a tragedy, but it is not the open and shut case that George Floyd killing was.
The Federalist ^ | 06/15/2020 | David Marcus

Posted on 06/15/2020 7:29:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: CodeToad
They did, however, neglect his medical crisis and should be held accountable for that

You might benefit from more information.

https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-truth-about-george-floyds-encounter.html

(The blog of a former US attorney)

81 posted on 06/15/2020 8:37:58 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: Bryan24

And this saint was out in covid release on child abuse charges. No tears here


82 posted on 06/15/2020 8:39:20 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Bryan24

Way way back in my day the local cops might have driven you home to sleep it off.

Now you get a DUI if you are in your driveway sleeping it off in your own car.


83 posted on 06/15/2020 8:41:37 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Greenperson

The drugs in Floyd’s system, and his coronary condition are largely irrelevant in this case. Derek Chauvin didn’t know anything about Floyd’s physical health.

Chauvin’s case will be decided on whether his breaking police policy by continuing to apply his knee to Floyd’s neck after Floyd stopped actively resisting (stopped moving and breathing, also) contributed to his death.

Chauvin’s depraved indifference to Floyd’s situation, leaving his knee on his neck for 2:45 after they checked for his pulse is what I cannot see him being able to explain away nor justify.


84 posted on 06/15/2020 8:46:53 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not all that tragic. Brooks was a career criminal that was let out of prison because of the coronavirus.


85 posted on 06/15/2020 8:49:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Cautious Optimism
It is hard to rationalize shooting this fleeing subject in the back.

He was shot after Brooks shot the officer with a taser that he had stolen from one of the officers.

That is quite a detail leave out.

This is an open and shut case of an officer acting self-defense, more so than the Michael Brown case since was unarmed.

86 posted on 06/15/2020 8:52:27 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind
It is hard to rationalize shooting this fleeing subject in the back.

Open your damn eyes. Brooks resisted arrested, took one of their tasers and shot the taser at one of them.

That kind of behavior can't just be let go if you want to have any law and order.

87 posted on 06/15/2020 8:54:48 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind

The death of Rayshard Brooks at the hands of Atlanta police officer Garrett Rolfe is not in any way a tragedy. Once you fight the cops and aim a Taser at them, you’ve proven that the world would be a better place without you. Bye, Rayshard!


88 posted on 06/15/2020 8:55:09 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Fido969
It is hard to rationalize shooting this fleeing subject in the back.

He was shot AFTER Brooks shot at the officer. That would be the key detail.

89 posted on 06/15/2020 8:58:58 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Bryan24

See the link in Post 81 here


90 posted on 06/15/2020 9:01:22 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: SeekAndFind

Open and shut? Since when?

An approved method of restraining a person resisting arrest, for which the cop was trained for, was used. It was not a choke hold but a knee on the back of the neck.

However, Floyd was high on Fentanyl, which causes respiratory depression and death, Floyd had Covid 19 which causes lack of oxygen and respiratory problems and death, on top of that he had and enlarged heart and heart trouble.

The autopsy revealed that Floyd did Not die of asphyxiation.

The cop applied the hold for a long time, 9 minutes. But it is clear to me it was not murder, accidental manslaughter at best.

Why do people assume it was race realeted?

Are they so racist, and have such racial bias that any black death at the hands of the police is ‘systemic racial oppression’?

Why was Floyd resisting arrest? The man was large and dangerous (muscular 6 foot seven!) And several police were unable to put him in the cop car because of his resistance. The only choice the police had was to pin him down.

I call his death ‘suicide be cop’, and the cop should be exhonorated.


91 posted on 06/15/2020 9:12:03 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Toughluck_freeper

OK, what about the topic at hand — Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta?


92 posted on 06/15/2020 9:13:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it wil)
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To: Kazan
He was shot AFTER Brooks shot at the officer. That would be the key detail.

Well, there you go. Shoot a tazer and run away, that gets you a shot in the back. Good luck with that.

93 posted on 06/15/2020 9:19:27 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Jimmy The Snake

He fired the taser at the officer and was shot. 100% justifiable shoot!


94 posted on 06/15/2020 9:24:26 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Howie66

You are correct. This was suicide by Cop. It is disgusting the amount of idiots on this thread taking the side of BLM. FR needs a purge.


95 posted on 06/15/2020 9:27:43 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: bkopto

That didn’t negate anything I said.


96 posted on 06/15/2020 9:33:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Agreed. They already had everything to just stop by the next morning and arrest him.

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So he can secure a more lethal weapon to wait for the police to call on him?


97 posted on 06/15/2020 9:34:28 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: shelterguy

I had that same conversation with a cop buddy. He’s a white cop in a majority black large democrat city with plenty of protests.

I’ve also see the full 30 minute bodycam video. The guy went psycho with no warning and stole the officers Tazer. To a reasonable observer, his shooting was perfectly justified.

Freepers who think otherwise need to examine their premises.


98 posted on 06/15/2020 9:46:48 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: cyclotic

A cop has a split second to make a decision.

Everyone else has all the time in the world to look at it frame by frame before making a decision.


99 posted on 06/15/2020 9:57:03 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

My brother once got pulled over by a cop driving a Mustang GT. My brother had an older GT. It ended up with the trooper and my brother under the hood of the Police car.


100 posted on 06/15/2020 9:59:53 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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