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Don’t Rush To Judgment On The Atlanta Shooting: The death of Rayshard Brooks is a tragedy, but it is not the open and shut case that George Floyd killing was.
The Federalist ^ | 06/15/2020 | David Marcus

Posted on 06/15/2020 7:29:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The death of Rayshard Brooks is a tragedy, but it is not the open and shut case that George Floyd killing was.
June 15, 2020 By

The death of Rayshard Brooks at the hands of Atlanta police officer Garrett Rolfe is a tragedy. Brooks was discovered by police asleep behind the wheel at a Wendy’s drive through. After apparently failing a field sobriety test, officers attempted to cuff Brooks, who resisted, stole an officer’s Taser and attempted to flee while pointing and seeming to fire the Taser at Rolfe. It is a sad story of a situation that got badly out of hand, but the rush to judgment against Rolfe by many in the media is misguided.

Over Saturday night as protesters burned down the Wendy’s in question, outlets like CNN were painting the police in the worst possible light, attempting clearly to link the shooting to the outrage over the killing of George Floyd. Sometimes this took the form of straight up lying, such as CNN legal analyst Areva Martin saying Brooks was unarmed.

Ah here is the clip that I think @BlueBoxDave was talking about.

This lie came courtesy of CNN legal analyst Areva Martin, someone we've written plenty about at NewsBusters https://t.co/OoMJDQUkBq pic.twitter.com/aMXgq2Iysd

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) June 14, 2020

“We now have yet another death of an unarmed African American man,” Martin says. It’s a bizarre untruth especially from a legal analyst. On Sunday another CNN guest would say that Brooks was “compliant” with police even though he clearly refuses to be handcuffed and assaults the officers before stealing the Taser.

But even those on the left who are not telling flat out lies are misrepresenting the incident in almost every way they can to poison the public’s views of the police action. “He was running away,” they say, “Tasers aren’t lethal,” they go on. What gets short if any shrift at all is that Brooks was firing a weapon at police that could incapacitate them, leaving them at Brooks’ mercy.

Police are in some sense like NFL refs; they are expected to make a decision in a split second that we can then scrutinize with endless slow motion replays. It is essentially an impossible ask and no replay booth can bring back a lost life. What makes the Brooks and Floyd killings so entirely different is time itself.

As Derek Chauvin drove his knee into George Floyd’s neck, a nearly nine-minute eternity occurred, during which time any of the officers should have saved Floyd’s life. The shooting in Atlanta could not be more different. A suspect attacks, steals a weapon, runs while aiming and possibly shooting it all in a matter of seconds. The incident is over almost before it starts.

It can be argued that the officers should have deescalated the situation, they could have simply given him a warning and told him to call an Uber, perhaps. The assumption being that this was a simple police interaction. But there is no such thing as a simple police interaction. Anytime police confront a suspect even on the most minor charge the possibility exists that the person could have warrants, could be looking at jail time, and could act accordingly.

The important thing to remember about police and the extraordinary powers we give them is that we do it because crime is inherently chaotic. The police have to play by rules; criminals by their very nature do not. This more than anything else is why kids (and some adults) have to be taught the right way to deal with police, and this goes for protestors too.

It’s pretty simple. If the police stop you just do what they say. If mistakes are made; complain about it later. The police don’t know who you are or what you are capable of doing. This does not give them a free pass when people resist, but it does put them in a dangerous and difficult situation that often leads to harm. Not only is obeying the police lawfully required, it is also the best way to keep everyone safe.

After the Boston Massacre in 1770 it was John Adams who defended the British soldiers who had fired on the angry crowd of patriots. The soldiers probably could have handled the situation better, leading to less loss of life, but Adams understood that was not the standard. He understood that the law gives those entrusted with keeping order, especially through violence, a lot of latitude on the use of force.

Six of the soldiers were acquitted, two found guilty not of murder but of manslaughter. It was a lesson for our nascent nation that taught us the value of rule of law, even when it protected the very powers the founders would soon be at war against. That is to say, no matter the righteous passions of protesters demanding police accountability, Garrett Rolfe must be tried based on the law, not based on the societal moment.

The fact of the matter is that if you are in a dark parking lot, you resist arrest, steal a cop’s Taser, point it at him and fire, there is a very good likelihood you will be shot. This is not the George Floyd case and a rush to judgment will only inflame, not soothe the mood of our angry country.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: atlanta; garrettrolfe; georgefloyd; rayshardbrooks; shooting; wendysprotest
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thanks, didn’t know that, and now especially wouldn’t expect a pursuing cop seeing a drawn weapon to take time to think that over.


41 posted on 06/15/2020 7:50:45 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs

Here is what an idiot said the cops should have done.

“”””Cedric Alexander, the former police chief of DeKalb County, east of Atlanta, said the Friday night encounter outside a Wendy’s restaurant should never have escalated into a use-of-force situation.

Alexander suggested the officers who found Brooks, 27, asleep in his car in the restaurant’s drive-through could have called him an Uber or given him a ride home instead of taking him into custody.”””””””””””

Really??? Passed out drunk at a drive thru and the cops are supposed to give you a free ride home?


42 posted on 06/15/2020 7:51:26 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: SeekAndFind

Here we go again. A police dept run my a dem chief , mayor and DA. There will be no justice, only a setup. The only way for the defendant to get a free trial is move the trial to another venue.


43 posted on 06/15/2020 7:51:39 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Glad everyone here takes the side of the criminal and lynches the cops no matter what. Makes everything so easy.

Why do we even have police when no matter what they do is going to get them lynched?


44 posted on 06/15/2020 7:51:51 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: shelterguy

You’re so right. I invite anyone to read the autopsy. The number and level of drugs in his system is amazing. Coupled with his recent bout of COVID19, his 75% (plus) blocked coronary arteries and sickle cell trait, a defense lawyer will make mincemeat out of the prosecution. You don’t even have to be a doctor to see the reasonable doubt in that autopsy report. Maybe the cops’ only failing was not giving him a shot of narcan.


45 posted on 06/15/2020 7:52:16 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: SeekAndFind
The death of Rayshard Brooks is a tragedy, but it is not the open and shut case that George Floyd killing was.

Agreed. The Atlanta killing was a drunk driver who grabbed a cop's taser and reportedly tried to use it on him. Anyone questioning the cop's actions needs to ask themselves if their reactions would have been quick enough to avoid this shooting.
46 posted on 06/15/2020 7:53:31 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: PGR88
This case is not the slam-dunk that Keith “Antifa” Ellison may think it is.

Mr. Ellison knows he has overcharged with the murder 2 charge. If he can get a jury to convict on murder 2 then he has a fine feather in his cap. If the jury finds him not guilty of murder 2 but guilty of a lesser charge the Ellison still gets street cred but no riots (probably). If the jury finds him not guilty of any charges then Ellison gets the riots he wants so as to damage the orange man. It is important that the verdict be given as near as possible to the election so as to have the maximum impact.

47 posted on 06/15/2020 7:54:47 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: BBQToadRibs

“Agreed. They already had everything to just stop by the next morning and arrest him.”

In the meantime someone under the influence who attacks the police is on the loose with a police weapon and who knows what else.

What will they say if he kills an innocent person with that weapon while the police themselves go home and sleep?


48 posted on 06/15/2020 7:55:02 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not sure it's clear how much time there was between Brooks turning and aiming the taser at the officer, and the shots being fired. They could have been almost simultaneous. And the angle at which Brooks was when aiming the taser at the officer would indicate shots being fired into his back.

Looking back from a comfortable position of hindsight, it's easy to say that the taser was not a threatening weapon, and it was unlikely to actually hit the target.

But the officer's thought process was probably not any more complicated than," He's aiming a weapon at me, I'm firing my gun." So, less than a second after Brooks pointed the taser, the officer fired.

49 posted on 06/15/2020 7:56:02 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: SaxxonWoods

“””“Why didn’t they just let Rayshard Brooks go after he fled? After all, they have all his details on file. They can arrest him later.”


You are encouraging all criminals to fight with the police and flee.
Won’t work.


And if Brooks was out on parole a DUI would most likely a violation of his probation and he would be put back into the ‘big house’. hence, that was Brooks’ motivation to escape.

If had run away and the cops picked him up the next day, there would have been no proof that he was indeed intoxicated.

Still trying to confirm that Brooks was indeed the same Rayshard Brooks who was paroled Jan 29 2020.


50 posted on 06/15/2020 7:56:08 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SeekAndFind

This person can write alot of words about an event, but those words might not match up with the autopsy reports.

Too bad that there isn’t video preceding the video we all have seen.


51 posted on 06/15/2020 7:56:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dmet

The cop knew ABSOLUTELY that Brooks had a tazer...you can even see the flash in one of the videos as he shot it at the officer...Cop fired and Brooks turned in the same instant...and got shot in the back. That’s just how fast things happen.


52 posted on 06/15/2020 7:57:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Facts do not matter to leftists. Only thing that matters is using the mob’s feelings to help their revolution.


53 posted on 06/15/2020 7:57:28 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: ridesthemiles

RE: Too bad that there isn’t video preceding the video we all have seen.

SEE THE ENTIRE OVER AN HOUR VIDEO FROM THE POLICE BODYCAM HERE:

https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/watch-bodycams-show-atlanta-cops-being-patient-respectful/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

There can be no other video as nobody bothered to take the video of Rayshard Brooks sleeping in his car at the Wendy’s drive thru blocking the cars behind him. The conversation he had with the cops however establishes the events prior to the event.


54 posted on 06/15/2020 8:00:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it wil)
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To: Mopp4

“We ain’t seen nothing yet if there’s an innocent verdict...... “

There may be rioting if there is a guilty verdict too.

Not everyone has looted everything they want to loot. Yet.


55 posted on 06/15/2020 8:00:52 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Fido969
The fact that he was shot twice in the back isn’t going to help here.

The fact that perp shot first at the cop isn't going to hurt the cop's case either

56 posted on 06/15/2020 8:07:12 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was a young dude so many years ago I can hardly remember, I was a furious drag racer always racing on the streets & highways of NYC,mainly because NYC did not have a certified Drag Racing Quarter Mile track.

As such, I was always being pulled over by the local police,because my car was noisy,loud and fast. My pull overs were for various traffic violations, wreckless drivng (drag racing), etc.

I never once tried to outrun a police car. When their lights went on and they chased me, I pulled off the road as soon as possible and waiting for them to come and tell what I did wrong. I was never drunk or on drugs, but, I was a powerful, aggressive driver, that loved winning drag races.

My Dad, God bless his soul...always told me to always obey the cops and do not try to run away from them. That is exactly what I did...every time. Once the cops saw that I was not drunk or drugged and I had control of my wits,they usually chew my teenage butt out, and then let me go with a warning.

If violators of the law would just surrender when apprehended for committing a crime, few would ever get killed...period. I believe that...100%!!!


57 posted on 06/15/2020 8:08:32 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: BBQToadRibs

a new news article came out that he was going to drive his DAUGHTER to a birthday party

goodness...

drunk, passed out, and with kids in the car at the next stop

yeah, lets arrest him TOMORROW...


58 posted on 06/15/2020 8:10:28 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: SeekAndFind

After watching the video IMO the reason he was shot in the back was because at the time he was half turned back discharging the taser.


59 posted on 06/15/2020 8:11:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight neiyour way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: BBQToadRibs
The point is, there was zero need to draw a gun and shoot. Zero. He wasn’t a kill-worthy threat.

Got to disagree. he sure as hell was a threat. He pointed a weapon at the cop first. If you let him go, in his condition with a weapon he was willing to point at a police officer, he could have done the same to innocent civilians. He wasn't down an in custody. The officer did nothing wrong here. In fact, he shouldn't have even been fired

60 posted on 06/15/2020 8:13:09 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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