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DOD study raises tantalizing question: does flu shot increase vulnerability to coronaviruses?
justthenews.com ^ | 5/14/2020 | Christine Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2020 6:45:04 AM PDT by bitt

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To: Texas Eagle

And you came to that conclusion by comparing medical personnel to everyone else.

I’m pointing that that isn’t a valid comparison.

Troop are ALWAYS going to be healthier than the general population.

And ‘troop’ are in the age demographic that can very easily HAVE this (or any other) coronavirus and not know it.


41 posted on 05/14/2020 8:04:02 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Troop are ALWAYS going to be healthier than the general population.

Granted. But what Dr. Gregory Wolff in Science magazine is wondering is if the flu shot made those military personnel MORE vulnerable. The evidence would seem to say no.

42 posted on 05/14/2020 8:09:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

There IS no control group in the military.

They *all* get those vaccines.

W/o a control group, you have no comparison to any other group.


43 posted on 05/14/2020 8:11:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Troop are ALWAYS going to be healthier than the general population.

Goodness gracious. That's my whole point.

If the flu shot made them more vulnerable, the percentage of military personnel contracting the virus would be astronomical.

44 posted on 05/14/2020 8:14:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Black Agnes

I never get a flu shot and am rarely ever sick and have never gotten the flu.
Not getting any vaccine for the Chicom cooties either.


45 posted on 05/14/2020 8:19:07 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Texas Eagle

No.

You have NO control group for that age/health demographic.

You, thus, have NO comparison for who or how many of that group would get that.

W/o a true control group (troop who did NOT get the vaccine), you have no idea what constitutes ‘astronomical’ numbers for that or any other comparison.


46 posted on 05/14/2020 8:19:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Have a nice day.


47 posted on 05/14/2020 8:21:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

In Brazil, they’ve tied getting official identification (like drivers license) to being fully vaccinated (even adults) with whatever is mandated.


48 posted on 05/14/2020 8:22:33 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Texas Eagle
How many military personnel contracted covid-19?

From unclassified military news reports, "a lot". The military is quite concerned about it and is taking a lot of preventative steps.

49 posted on 05/14/2020 8:27:12 AM PDT by Gritty (The Left has nothing to offer anyone that must not first be taken from someone else. - F. Porretto)
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To: Gritty
According to The Military Times, the percentage is .1%

That's one/tenth of 1 percent. The percentage of the general population is .2 percent. That's double.

As far as the USS Roosevelt is concerned, that brings up an interesting question. Why didn't ALL military ships and bases see such an outbreak?

If you take the Roosevelt out of the equation, the infection rate would be even lower.

So, ipso facto, the flu shot did not make them more vulnerable.

50 posted on 05/14/2020 8:32:51 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

The only time I received the flu was from a military administered flu shot


51 posted on 05/14/2020 8:34:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Black Agnes
Did you mean ≠ ??

I know they're not equal...but....striking, to me, anyway, the vulnerability to CV, between the two.

Thought you might've found interesting, as well.

52 posted on 05/14/2020 8:45:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

The overactive immune system aspect makes me wonder if the kawasaki kids have had recent vaccines for anything else.


53 posted on 05/14/2020 8:47:06 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I wonder if there is anything a Brazilian could do to protect/offset and potential damage from the vaccines?

It might be a good thing to research, especially for parents and those at risk.


54 posted on 05/14/2020 9:01:07 AM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: jacquej

The fact that you’d need to research ways to avoid damage from a procedure that your own government would mandate is in itself a problem. Given that the same government tells you anyone suggesting there might be ‘damage’ is a tinfoil hatter who wants to kill the children.

Have you read this book?:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/0977795306


55 posted on 05/14/2020 9:05:11 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I have been wondering the same thing, Black Agnes. I also wonder if they had been given too many combined vaccines, overwhelming their immune systems.

Would be interesting to research these poor children’s medical history, what medications they had been prescribed, family medical histories, etc. I hope that is going to be done.


56 posted on 05/14/2020 9:06:32 AM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: Black Agnes

I haven’t, but I am familiar with it from listening to various radio/internet sources.

I often think of Semmelwiess, and wonder if anything has ever changed, in that we humans can easily forget prior bad ideas, like bloodletting.


57 posted on 05/14/2020 9:15:48 AM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: jacquej

It’s not the forgetting bad ideas.

It’s who makes billions on the bad ideas and how entrenched they are in the current power structure.


58 posted on 05/14/2020 9:18:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Dutch Boy

We should collect the bat carcasses strewn about under the windmills and recycle them as a medium for developing new coronavirus vaccines.


59 posted on 05/14/2020 9:41:17 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Black Agnes

Great point.

Although, I doubt we’ll ever see any studies....or RESULTS of said studies, on this :- /


60 posted on 05/14/2020 9:44:30 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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