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DOD study raises tantalizing question: does flu shot increase vulnerability to coronaviruses?
justthenews.com ^ | 5/14/2020 | Christine Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2020 6:45:04 AM PDT by bitt

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To: Jane Long

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2001/sep/09/gm.food

Note date.

They’ve been trying to sterilize us for a long time now.


61 posted on 05/14/2020 9:49:34 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

What. Could. Go. Wrong?


62 posted on 05/14/2020 9:52:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

Roll up your sleeve peasant! Too many of you anyways.


63 posted on 05/14/2020 9:56:00 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jane Long
Recall the early reports, out of China, that folks there who’d received the SARS *vax* were ones most susceptible to this new China flu/covid19.

Yes, that. Makes CV being a bio weapon even more likely.

64 posted on 05/14/2020 11:20:24 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: bitt

Remember, Fauci was touting his new pandemic vaccine mRNA-1273 in Oct. at Gates’ Event 201. Wonder why he’d have that out before a pandemic reared it’s ugly head?


65 posted on 05/14/2020 11:24:04 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RatRipper

I’m only 53, but I do not get the flu vaccine because they refuse to announce what is in it (regarding stem cell bull product).


66 posted on 05/14/2020 11:27:36 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: null and void

Right up there with Fauci saying having antibodies doesn’t help you

They’re guessing they have no clue and probably won’t for a decade

Let our people go


67 posted on 05/14/2020 12:15:59 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: bitt
This claim originated in Judy Mikovits's "Plandemic". Mikovits is a failed medical researcher who destroyed her own career and has spent the last ten years blaming everyone else for it and pandering to the anti-vaccine/anti-big pharma crowd. Plandemic had so many half truths in the intro alone it was clear to me everything she said was a carefully crafted deception.

In Plandemic, she claimed this study showed that the DOD vaccination program made soldiers more vulnerable to Covid-19. She did not not state the name of the study, gave only a brief glimpse of its title, then twisted its meaning. It does not matter if a few people find she is making things up, most will not bother and the damage is already done.

To give credit to Christine Dolan, she gave both the name of the study and a link to the full text, and that is better than much of the MSM these days.

The study period rant from October 1, 2017 to September 29, 2018, and was submitted for review June 20, 2019. SARS-Cov-II was not know to exist then. It is not possible to draw conclusions about SARS-Cov-II and Covid-19 from this study because they were not known to exist at the time.

From the abstract:

"Conclusions: Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses,but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections"

At that time, there were six known corona viruses, most of them caused mild respiratory disease like the cold. Only two, SARS and MERS, are rare and particularly dangerous. This study was about the flu, not all other respiratory disease causing viruses. So as far as I can tell, it did not different between less and more harmful strains of the other virus families included in the study.

68 posted on 05/14/2020 12:26:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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“”Just a few short weeks before the COVID-19 pandemic burst into public view -——— Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season””

How on earth are we supposed to consider anything valid if the “2017-2018 flu season” was just a “few short weeks before the Covid 19 outbreak?” Left out a whole year and that is a “few weeks?” Don’t waste our time.


69 posted on 05/14/2020 1:21:06 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: a fool in paradise

What medical school and research hospital/facility did Bill Gates graduate from? Why on earth are you quoting him?


70 posted on 05/14/2020 1:22:28 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: trebb

“”new “wonder drugs””

You mean the ones that warn you to call your doctor if you die?


71 posted on 05/14/2020 1:24:45 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

Them’s the ones.


72 posted on 05/15/2020 2:26:53 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: a fool in paradise

There was a corona vaccine a couple years ago. They injected the rodents and they were fine. Then they exposed them (I forget, rabbits or mice or rats) to the coronavirus in question at the time, and they ALL DIED.

Don’t rush to put up your sleeve.


73 posted on 05/15/2020 5:09:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: a fool in paradise; null and void; RummyChick; Black Agnes; Jane Long; PA Engineer; taxcontrol; ...

Vitamin C; Vitamin D3, and zinc all appear to be involved in dealing with Covid. I have always contended that we should not take our children or ourselves to be vaccinated when we are not in good health. I always take extra supplements before I get my annual flu shot and have almost no symptoms. With children I urged my children to only let my grandchildren be given at the most 3 vaccines at one time.

I think an important question to be answered is How High Were these Important Factors before the flu vaccine, and how high are they a day after vaccination, one month, and 3 months after vaccination. If the C, D3, Zinc and other significant factors are depleted then they could be increased both before and after vaccination. Elderly people, especially with co-morbidities, are probably already somewhat deficient, so studying them would be especially important. At 81, taking my supplements regularly is very important and helpful to my good health.

The elderly probably also need a stronger flu vaccine because with sub-clinical and perhaps even unacknowledged deficiencies their immune systems are probably not able to crank up their reactivity as well either for the vaccine, or for fighting other illnesses. Doctors are taught almost nothing about nutritional illnesses. Many years ago when I was typing the laboratory manual for a university Dept. of Pharmacology, there was ONE PAGE about scurvy, Beriberi, and Pellagra in an 85 page manual. On the other hand, drug companies are always close at hand to offer advice and free samples to doctors and med students. Of course drug companies will not make much money off these supplements or HCQ either which is now off patent.


74 posted on 05/17/2020 7:22:44 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Black Agnes; jacquej; Jim Robinson; Jane Long; bgill; Nifster; Widget; Thank You Rush; Yaelle

Good thought on checking the vaccination history on the Kawasaki kids. I think that Vitamin C and D3 are especially important there. Infants and small children often don’t get as much sun as adults, especially in winter. Check my comment #74 for other thoughts.

I am wondering what is in the fine print of whatever agreements were signed between Bill Gates and the 7 companies he is helping with vaccine development financing. I wonder what Fauci is doing with/for Gilead Sciences. Keep checking and posting all, we may get a solution yet.

Regarding Brazil, I heard that recently a group of high level Brazilians close to Bolsonaro visited with the Trump crowd in Florida which included the aide who has tested positive at the White House. Apparently 16 or more Brazilians returned home infected. As to what Brazilians and Americans can do to protect themselves take more C, D3, and zinc, and read Dr. Cathcart’s report, and Dr. Zelenko’s letter to Trump. http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html
https://www.google.com/search?channel=tus2&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=dr.+vladimir+zelenko%2C+letter+to+trump


75 posted on 05/17/2020 7:45:01 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: a fool in paradise

Only an idiot would think of vaccinating pregnant people. Aluminum gets through the placenta and the brain. Geez, Bill Gates. That is way over toxicity for a tiny fetus.


76 posted on 05/17/2020 11:06:44 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Black Agnes

I never got the flu shot and oddly enough, after i began taking D3 supplements never got any URI’s.


Bingo. And guess what, instead of the vaccine reducing your immune system to every other virus, illness, or condition such as cancer, vitamin d supplementation helps to prevent every one of them.


77 posted on 05/17/2020 11:10:19 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Black Agnes

Terrified of that lack of medical freedom happening here.


78 posted on 05/17/2020 11:11:37 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: jacquej

Yes, we forget previous “sure things” medically that actually caused illness and death. Mercury used to be in almost every medicine for 150+ years! It caused a lot of poisonings with various degrees of symptoms, and often those symptoms were seen as their own illnesses, and Docs prescribed more mercury!


79 posted on 05/17/2020 11:14:34 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: trebb

I’m one of them folks. My rheumatologist told me to keep my zinc and vitamin d levels up. he also mentioned vitamin c of course, but wasn’t too worried about that.


80 posted on 09/22/2020 4:13:27 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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