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Moving goalposts: Oregon governor now demanding COVID-19 cases drop BELOW flu levels to reopen
Conservative Review ^ | May 7, 2020 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 05/09/2020 6:57:38 AM PDT by grundle

If you think the coronavirus fascism will die with the flattening of the coronavirus curve, I have a wet market to sell you in Wuhan.

It’s becoming abundantly clear that the lockdown was not a temporary, unprecedented strategy to flatten the curve, but is a pretext to use a dramatically low threshold of risk to continue crushing liberty, the economy, and releasing criminals from prison. The tyrannical governors are essentially saying that in order to end any lockdown and even move towards targeted mitigation, we must test everyone every day before they are allowed to breathe, that there must be almost no cases of COVID-19 around (even if there are few deaths outside nursing homes), and that we must contact-trace and monitor society with a police state even after the virus has already reached tens of millions of people.

Oregon Governor Kate Brown announced this week that each county must submit a plan to reopen and must also show that its COVID-19 illnesses are less than the historic average of flu cases seen at this time of year.

This is a state that has just 115 deaths, 60% of which have been in senior living homes. Most of the recent deaths have been in nursing homes and similar facilities. Overall, 81% of all deaths were people with serious underlying conditions. We are literally talking about a handful of people outside nursing homes dying in the entire state, which by itself demonstrates that this has a very low fatality rate for most people, yet the governor is focused on the number of overall cases, which is enormous.

So now the goalposts have moved, from flattening the curve of hospitalizations to flattening the total cases and then to bringing them below flu levels.

Many governors are extending the lockdowns despite nearly all the recent deaths occurring in nursing homes. Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey made it clear that the lockdown has no timeline “whether you like it or not.”

This demonstrates moving forward that the threshold for pushing these lockdowns will be remarkably low, with no understanding of or regard for the collateral damage. This will not be once-in-a-millennium phenomenon. Now that this epidemic, several weeks after the peak, is more or less confined to nursing homes and a few other vulnerable populations, it is on par, at this point, with many other epidemics that were barely noticed in the news, much less that caused a national shutdown.

But perhaps the biggest lie of the entire lockdown strategy is the premise that it has helped at all, especially as compared to commonsense mitigation, as opposed to doing nothing. Lockdowns and contact tracing only helped in countries that did it early on before the virus spread far and wide, and even most of the Asian countries didn’t shut down their economies, and some didn’t shut down the schools. Iceland, Israel, and Germany began their efforts very early, and the former two are small and homogenously healthy countries, as are most of the Nordic countries with good results. Plus, Israeli researchers now believe the lockdown was a mistake.

What America and most of the other large European countries did was the worst of all worlds. They did lockdown after the virus had already been spreading rapidly for weeks and even peaked in transmissions. It’s why one comprehensive study found “no evidence of any discontinuity in the growth rate, doubling time, and reproduction number trends” in lockdown countries in Europe. “Extrapolating pre-lockdown growth rate trends, we provide estimates of the death toll in the absence of any lockdown policies, and show that these strategies might not have saved any life in western Europe,” wrote the author.

One comprehensive study of Lombardy by Italian researchers of the first 5,830 laboratory-confirmed cases there found that the virus had already peaked in terms of transmissions and reproduction on February 20 – before any lockdown. The cake was already baked.

We are seeing the same thing in New York as Andrew Cuomo is “shocked” that most of the hospitalizations now are from people who already have been staying home. “If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said yesterday during his daily press conference.

“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”

You discovered reality, Sherlock!

What most of the European countries and America did was take a virus that had already been spreading to some degree for months, and earnestly for weeks, and locked everyone down together. Which is why most studies show family spread is the most common form of transmission.

As Dr. David Katz said during a Senate Homeland Security Committee remote hearing yesterday, “We may have closed the barn door after all of the horses were out.”

The only reason for a lockdown is if you are a poor country with not enough resources to handle the patients at once. While we were never overrun, we could have justified lockdown for a week or two to delay some of the hospitalizations. Other than that, no lives are saved in the long run at this late stage, and so many more are lost from the unfathomable and incalculable collateral damage.

Instead of a lockdown and testing the entire country, the contact tracing, virus testing, and restrictions must all be focused on nursing homes, where more than half the deaths have occurred and most of the new deaths are occurring. The rest of the population needs to follow a stratified risk assessment to determine the best way forward to achieve herd immunity.

It’s not that the governing elites don’t know this. They know exactly what they are doing. As Thomas Jefferson warned, “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.” Lockdowns are the perfect strategy to permanently change the relationship between the citizen and the government, because they accomplish nothing but perpetuate a need for themselves. As Dr. Katz said at yesterday’s hearing, “The problem with an interdiction strategy that starts and ends with flattening the curve is that it can never stop.” (2:49:35)

And that is exactly what so many in politics want.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: katebrown; oregon
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To: grundle

virtue signaling - ‘I care more than the other guy’, which is what got us in so deep in the first place


21 posted on 05/09/2020 8:13:16 AM PDT by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: grundle
So the counties have to come begging hat in hand to this Ilse Koch wannabe for permission to live a normal life? Nice going Oregon democrats.


22 posted on 05/09/2020 8:29:11 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: grundle

“Megalomaniac” (Incubus)

I hear you on the radio
You permeate my screen, its’ unkind but
If I met you in a scissor fight
I’d cut off both your wings on principle alone
On principle alone
Hey megalomaniac
You’re no Jesus
Yeah, you’re no f_cking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself
Baby, just step down, step down
If I were your appendages
I’d hold open your eyes
So you would see
That all of us are heaven sent
There was never meant to be only one
To be only one
Hey megalomaniac
You’re no Jesus
Yeah, you’re no f_cking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself
Baby, just step down, step down
Yeah
You’re no Jesus
You’re no Elvis
You’re no answer
Hey megalomaniac
You’re no Jesus
Yeah, you’re no f_cking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself
Just step down


23 posted on 05/09/2020 8:29:33 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: grundle

She’s a maniac (megalomaniac) Flashdance

Just a steel town girl on a Saturday night
Looking for the fight of her life in the real time world
No one sees her at all they all say she’s crazy
Locking rhythm to the beat of her heart
Changing movement into light
She has danced into the danger zone
When the dancer becomes the dance
It can cut you like a knife if the fight becomes the fire
On the wire between will and what will be
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac at the show,
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
On the ice blue line of insanity is a place most never see
It’s a hard won place of mystery, touch it but can’t hold it
You work all your life, for that moment in time
It could come or pass you by it’s a push shove world
But there’s always a chance if the hunger stays the night
There’s a cold kinetic heat
Struggling stretching for the peak
Never stopping with her head against the wind
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before
It can cut you like a knife if the fight becomes the fire
On the wire between will and what will be
She’s a megalomaniac, megalomaniac on the floor (I sure know)
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before


24 posted on 05/09/2020 8:37:42 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: grundle

Another idiot Democrat Governor begging for a state wide recall.


25 posted on 05/09/2020 9:36:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

I wonder how many of these demonrat governors are going to be facing total recall when this is over.


26 posted on 05/09/2020 10:23:16 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Ann Archy

She got the job when Democrat John Kithaber was recalled. I pray she doesn’t get re-elected when she runs for re-election.


27 posted on 05/09/2020 12:08:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: grundle; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

28 posted on 05/09/2020 12:10:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Grampa Dave
Each day her B$ continues and Governor Gruesome’s B$ continues, the more possible the State of Jefferson becomes!

Except I think we will need North Jefferson and South Jefferson.

The former Californians are so used to a sales tax that they will want one for the entire state.

29 posted on 05/09/2020 3:30:13 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: grundle
Mike Rowe Is Right: There’s “No Such Thing” as a Non-Essential Worker All too often, what is deemed “essential” is simply what’s convenient to state leaders making the decisions.
30 posted on 05/09/2020 3:30:44 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: CurlyDave

You may be right.

Taxes in general are bad. Property taxes are to me the most dangerous, then comes the income tax. One of our sons moved to Oregone about 30 years ago. I did his taxes, and I could not believe at that time how much he paid income taxes for about 6 months of a low salary.

I would prefer a sales tax with no deductions. Local govs get 80% and 15% to the next governmental level and 5% to the state.

No complicated forms to fill out and no CPAs needed.


31 posted on 05/09/2020 3:45:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, owners of America's Fake news media, CNN, Democrats, & the real Deep Staters!)
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To: Mastador1

“I wonder how many of these demonrat governors are going to be facing total recall when this is over.”

If their state allows for a recall, everyone of them who wiped their feet on our constitution, should be recalled.


32 posted on 05/09/2020 3:48:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, owners of America's Fake news media, CNN, Democrats, & the real Deep Staters!)
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To: mewzilla

Thanks for the link.


33 posted on 05/09/2020 4:56:47 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Salvation

Now your Governor is dictator. What are you doing about it? I have a Rat Governor here in NC but at least he’s not that bad compared to yours.


34 posted on 05/12/2020 7:51:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: grundle
It’s seems to me that Oregon suffers from the same thing that is killing my beloved NY. Democraticitis.

Why do they feel the need to upset the tried and true norms? I have no problem accepting oddities as long as they don’t try to turn my world upside down.

35 posted on 05/13/2020 2:36:36 PM PDT by Kudsman (Im trying to love the tolerant left. They make it very hard to do.)
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