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Moving goalposts: Oregon governor now demanding COVID-19 cases drop BELOW flu levels to reopen
Conservative Review ^ | May 7, 2020 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 05/09/2020 6:57:38 AM PDT by grundle

If you think the coronavirus fascism will die with the flattening of the coronavirus curve, I have a wet market to sell you in Wuhan.

It’s becoming abundantly clear that the lockdown was not a temporary, unprecedented strategy to flatten the curve, but is a pretext to use a dramatically low threshold of risk to continue crushing liberty, the economy, and releasing criminals from prison. The tyrannical governors are essentially saying that in order to end any lockdown and even move towards targeted mitigation, we must test everyone every day before they are allowed to breathe, that there must be almost no cases of COVID-19 around (even if there are few deaths outside nursing homes), and that we must contact-trace and monitor society with a police state even after the virus has already reached tens of millions of people.

Oregon Governor Kate Brown announced this week that each county must submit a plan to reopen and must also show that its COVID-19 illnesses are less than the historic average of flu cases seen at this time of year.

This is a state that has just 115 deaths, 60% of which have been in senior living homes. Most of the recent deaths have been in nursing homes and similar facilities. Overall, 81% of all deaths were people with serious underlying conditions. We are literally talking about a handful of people outside nursing homes dying in the entire state, which by itself demonstrates that this has a very low fatality rate for most people, yet the governor is focused on the number of overall cases, which is enormous.

So now the goalposts have moved, from flattening the curve of hospitalizations to flattening the total cases and then to bringing them below flu levels.

Many governors are extending the lockdowns despite nearly all the recent deaths occurring in nursing homes. Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey made it clear that the lockdown has no timeline “whether you like it or not.”

This demonstrates moving forward that the threshold for pushing these lockdowns will be remarkably low, with no understanding of or regard for the collateral damage. This will not be once-in-a-millennium phenomenon. Now that this epidemic, several weeks after the peak, is more or less confined to nursing homes and a few other vulnerable populations, it is on par, at this point, with many other epidemics that were barely noticed in the news, much less that caused a national shutdown.

But perhaps the biggest lie of the entire lockdown strategy is the premise that it has helped at all, especially as compared to commonsense mitigation, as opposed to doing nothing. Lockdowns and contact tracing only helped in countries that did it early on before the virus spread far and wide, and even most of the Asian countries didn’t shut down their economies, and some didn’t shut down the schools. Iceland, Israel, and Germany began their efforts very early, and the former two are small and homogenously healthy countries, as are most of the Nordic countries with good results. Plus, Israeli researchers now believe the lockdown was a mistake.

What America and most of the other large European countries did was the worst of all worlds. They did lockdown after the virus had already been spreading rapidly for weeks and even peaked in transmissions. It’s why one comprehensive study found “no evidence of any discontinuity in the growth rate, doubling time, and reproduction number trends” in lockdown countries in Europe. “Extrapolating pre-lockdown growth rate trends, we provide estimates of the death toll in the absence of any lockdown policies, and show that these strategies might not have saved any life in western Europe,” wrote the author.

One comprehensive study of Lombardy by Italian researchers of the first 5,830 laboratory-confirmed cases there found that the virus had already peaked in terms of transmissions and reproduction on February 20 – before any lockdown. The cake was already baked.

We are seeing the same thing in New York as Andrew Cuomo is “shocked” that most of the hospitalizations now are from people who already have been staying home. “If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said yesterday during his daily press conference.

“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”

You discovered reality, Sherlock!

What most of the European countries and America did was take a virus that had already been spreading to some degree for months, and earnestly for weeks, and locked everyone down together. Which is why most studies show family spread is the most common form of transmission.

As Dr. David Katz said during a Senate Homeland Security Committee remote hearing yesterday, “We may have closed the barn door after all of the horses were out.”

The only reason for a lockdown is if you are a poor country with not enough resources to handle the patients at once. While we were never overrun, we could have justified lockdown for a week or two to delay some of the hospitalizations. Other than that, no lives are saved in the long run at this late stage, and so many more are lost from the unfathomable and incalculable collateral damage.

Instead of a lockdown and testing the entire country, the contact tracing, virus testing, and restrictions must all be focused on nursing homes, where more than half the deaths have occurred and most of the new deaths are occurring. The rest of the population needs to follow a stratified risk assessment to determine the best way forward to achieve herd immunity.

It’s not that the governing elites don’t know this. They know exactly what they are doing. As Thomas Jefferson warned, “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.” Lockdowns are the perfect strategy to permanently change the relationship between the citizen and the government, because they accomplish nothing but perpetuate a need for themselves. As Dr. Katz said at yesterday’s hearing, “The problem with an interdiction strategy that starts and ends with flattening the curve is that it can never stop.” (2:49:35)

And that is exactly what so many in politics want.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: katebrown; oregon
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1 posted on 05/09/2020 6:57:38 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Another SHE NAZI!!! NEVER ELECT A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!


2 posted on 05/09/2020 7:01:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: grundle

There has to be some provision in the state constitution or statutes to deal with a governor that has clearly either gone insane or is abusing his power to the detriment and/or destruction of the state.


3 posted on 05/09/2020 7:04:20 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Salvation

Oregon ping


4 posted on 05/09/2020 7:06:21 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To: goodnesswins

Democrats are committed to ruin the economy. Anything to prevent Trump from being elected. It is shocking what they will do to the country to reach their goal.


5 posted on 05/09/2020 7:11:14 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: grundle

They don’t really want to reopen. The left is happy with people being out of work and living off the meager pittance that the government sends them to live on.


6 posted on 05/09/2020 7:11:58 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug. I hate that which makes me afraid. And the media.)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Oregon was not going to vote for Trump anyway. Just another example that the country needs cut off the states west of the Sierra Nevada, including the isle of pineapples but not Alaska.


7 posted on 05/09/2020 7:12:52 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: grundle

Time for some good old fashioned civil disobedience.


8 posted on 05/09/2020 7:13:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: Ann Archy

But they will.


9 posted on 05/09/2020 7:13:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: grundle

Free beer tomorrow!


10 posted on 05/09/2020 7:15:46 AM PDT by kevslisababy (I am a Genuine Female: No after market parts.)
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To: grundle

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/Sheriff-Jackson-County-will-not-enforce-Governors-stay-at-home-order-570317621.html#.XrYEzbYNOYk.twitter


11 posted on 05/09/2020 7:20:01 AM PDT by Rio
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To: grundle

How about when Wuhan virus deaths go below deaths from abortions?


12 posted on 05/09/2020 7:42:30 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: grundle

Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey made it clear that the lockdown has no timeline “whether you like it or not.”

These Dem governors need to be told not to expect any financial help from the Federal government if they are still locked down after a certain date. If their citizens don’t want to return to work, they can figure out how to pay their own bills and the bills of the state. Time to grow up and make the tough choices that adults make.


13 posted on 05/09/2020 7:50:33 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: grundle

One of my Co-workers who lives in Gresham, told me they are not sure when anything will open up. Our Branch in Portland is running at about 20% capacity.

My co-worker friend is moving to Idaho. Oregon knew Brown was a Far left wing activist when she was running for Governor and they still voted her in office.


14 posted on 05/09/2020 7:51:59 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Yes, but me thinks Mommy brown is riling up the independents here...and there’s lots of them in Oregon.


15 posted on 05/09/2020 7:53:37 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To: grundle

Each day her B$ continues and Governor Gruesome’s B$ continues, the more possible the State of Jefferson becomes!


16 posted on 05/09/2020 7:55:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Democrats are committed to ruin the economy. Anything to prevent Trump from being elected. It is shocking what they will do to the country to reach their goal.


this is all a setup for the to be revealed Dem Plan to provide $2000 a month till the CDC declares all safe.

That way they can keep things shut down, create real dependency longer term, and in effect destroy the economy so the next phase can be started.

Green Deal.. WE saw a preview with OAC and her pollution by Jet Blue Airlines flying over NYC.

They will stop at no end to create the ideal Nanny 1984 state...

Trump is Hercules standing in their way and they need to find a way to take him down...


17 posted on 05/09/2020 7:55:23 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: grundle
The oregoonians who elected this leftist loser should be so proud. Lean back and enjoy the suck.
18 posted on 05/09/2020 7:57:09 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: GreyFriar

Let’s try saving real American lives by reversing this whole thing. Reverse any law or order passed during the past two and a half months and institute a new lockdown. This one covers abortion facilities, Planned Parenthood locations, and a variety of cooperating and supporting businesses, nonprofit organizations, and government offices. We will continue to ratchet up the intensity of the lockdown until the number of Americans dead from abortion drops below the number of Americans who die from drowning at nursing homes as a result of injuries involving pack animals other than horses while wearing llama or alpaca wool sweaters. Meanwhile, churches, pregnancy-help centers, businesses, and the rest of the economy can prosper.


19 posted on 05/09/2020 8:04:01 AM PDT by dufekin
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To: grundle
A pattern among the power-obsessed Democrat/Left governors that simply can no longer be denied ... nor can it continue to be ignored or "tolerated".

Sadly, over the past six weeks when the forced isolation began, federal officials including the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court and even the President of the United States, officials who have sworn their oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America", have stood mute. These "defenders of the Constitution" (their primary duty above all else) have allowed these governors -- primarily the Democrat/Left governors -- to turn our Constitution into nothing more than a collection of high-sounding words on pieces of aging parchment.

20 posted on 05/09/2020 8:06:13 AM PDT by glennaro (Wearing a mask and not wearing a mask outside in public provides the same level of virus protection)
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