Posted on 03/06/2020 1:59:27 PM PST by a little elbow grease
( It’s like the Democrats are running baseball)
Goose Gossage doesn’t need to be welcomed at spring training to chime in on the sign-stealing scandal that has rocked baseball.
Gossage, who was banned as a Yankee spring instructor in 2018 for various criticisms of GM Brian Cashman and the team’s analytics department, offered his latest “Get off my lawn” rant this week, including what his response would be to the Astros’ cheating scheme to steal signs via electronics during the 2017 season.
“Guys used to steal signs all the time,” the Hall of Fame closer told the Tampa Bay Times. “Robin Yount and Paul Molitor were a couple of the best at stealing signs from second base, and [catcher Thurman] Munson comes out one day and says, ‘I think they’re stealing our signs.’
“I said, ‘Oh, OK.’ Munson runs back, he didn’t even say anything, we knew what to do. He called a breaking ball and I threw a fastball under Robin Yount’s chin, and I think he saw his life flash before his eyes.’’
Gossage, a member of the Yankees’ 1978 World Series championship team, also dusted off a few of his greatest hits, with shots at Cashman and the analytics craze that has taken over the game in recent years.
“These (stat-driven) workouts are all eyewash. It’s a bunch of bulls–t. It’s like the Democrats are running baseball,” Gossage said. “They’re trying to control something that is uncontrollable. And they’re taking all the beauty out of the game.
(snip) -- “Swinging for the fences, that uppercut (that’s so common), oh my God, if I pitched today they wouldn’t even sniff a ball.’’
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Ha! I wonder what Bob Gibson would say about that? ;-)
see post # 22
LOL. Go Goose - let it rip!!
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I would hope he didn't hear that comment.
;-)
But ........ I did say, "generally" a bunch of sissies.
Randy Johnson. Is he the guy they called “The Big Unit”?
Zimmer would know. Getting beaned benched him. I don’t like throwing at a hitters head. But crowding the plate is bullshitz. They’ve closed up the strike zone, hardened the ball and tweaked the game to run up the scores. It ain’t the game I played and watched as a kid, when Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese were calling the games. I’m with the Goose. No beer in the club house? Man that ain’t baseball.
He was one mean mofo. But, he still couldn't get it done against Denny McClain and the Tigers.
“With improvements over time, what did folks expect?
I’m willing to entertain the idea I’m wrong here, but it doesn’t bother me.”
You are not wrong in believing this is not a big deal. It is your opinion and opinions are neither right or wrong.
But stealing signs in direct violation of the rules is serious business as was shown with the Houston Astros who are said to have won a League title and the World Series by their method of stealing signs.
The MEANS for stealing signs the way the Astro’s did has been available since the late 1940’s since it involved a center field camera and banging on a trash can to relay the sign to the batter.
Gibson is living in Omaha last I heard. I listen to Mike Shannon and his partner when the Cards play at home. The stories the old timers tell are half the reason I still watch and listen to the games. I think everyone had more fun when the money wasn’t the biggest reason the players played. A lot of them would have payed to play.
“Guys used to steal signs all the time.”
I approve. Guys still steal signs. It is fun to crack signs when the game gets boring in the mid innings in the summer at empty parks. People are just jealous that the Astros are super talented at pitching, hitting and stealing signs.
I'll be honest though, I don't like messing with someone else's career.
If you've got the control and can place the ball exactly where you
want, then I can live with it. Tell me a pitcher that can do that.
Most miss the plate more often than they'd like to think they do.
What I enjoy is a guy getting brushed off, and then putting one deep in
the bleachers on the next pitch.
Cool, thanks. I only ask ‘cause of a YouTube video where Johnson hits a seagull with a pitch. Poor bird exploded.
d":^)
I hated seeing that ball he threw to the plate in a spring training game years ago that directly hit a dove who was flying across in front of the plate and was killed instantly.
It was really gross. Feathers everywhere.
...by the players on the field (which is legal), not by having electronic devices (which is against the rules).
What they did was much more than just a base-runner on 2nd base looking in.
The Astros mounted a camera out in center field zoomed in on the catcher.
They transmitted a live signal to the clubhouse.
A group of analysts in the clubhouse deciphered the signs.
The next pitch was then telegraphed to the batter.
They were cheating.
They knew they were cheating.
Everybody in the entire organization knew about it.
Every man-Jack of them.
From the owner down to the bat-boy.
All they got was slap on the wrist.
They can expect a lot of chin music this year.
And they deserve every bit of it.
Electronic sign steeling in real time takes the fans out of the game, when they have no idea of who is actually playing, the players or some kid with zits and an energy drink on a computer,.., electronic stealing adds doubt to the fans that the game is rigged and the players who are actually on the field are not the ones winning the game.
Also, not punishing players who break the rules makes baseball no better to watch than a rigged drama , the good clean guys against the straw man bad guys. If MLB cant fix these issues along with their stupid blackouts, people are not going to care about the game anymore, just like nobody watches wrestling..
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Yes, sir. You are so right.
Back when the Pirates sucked in the mid 50's, the great Pirate announcer Bob Prince was more entertaining sitting around in the broadcast booth swapping stories with old time players, etc. during the rain delays.
The rain delays were fantastic!!
lol
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