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Tucker Carlson On Soleimani Intelligence: Since When Do We Trust The Deep State?
Hotair ^ | 01/07/2020 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/07/2020 8:44:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: AzNASCARfan

I believe military intelligence has been on team Trump from day one!


Agree. They are there to protect lives...

The agencies are only there to cover up their failed schemes for the most part.

Particularly the CIA who it seems is never really exposed


41 posted on 01/07/2020 9:24:04 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: SeekAndFind

Tucker makes a good argument EXCEPT he forgets about the threat of a nuclear Iran. If we do what he says and stay out of the middle-east Iran will eventually become a global threat and it will be much harder to deal with them.


42 posted on 01/07/2020 9:24:58 AM PST by MichaelRDanger
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To: SeekAndFind

How did the President get the Iranians to attack the US Embassy in Baghdad?

The US performed a flawless direct proportional response to the people who planned, and organized, that internationally recognized act of war. A target which has direct documented links to the assassination of 700 US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan

That you infantile scum are trying to play politics with this is yet another indication of your total unfitness to hold any political office, at any level, anywher


43 posted on 01/07/2020 9:33:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tucker is a Liberaltarian, he would gladly vote for Karl Marx if he was promised a big sack of dope to smoke with his queer boyfriend.


44 posted on 01/07/2020 9:36:12 AM PST by Beagle8U (Did Eric Ciaramella kill Epstein? He didn't kill himself.)
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To: Magnum44

“Tucker makes the mistake of equating the military use of the tactical intelligence our systems provide the warfighter with the political weaponizing of our intelligence capabilities by a relatively few and high up appointed deep staters.

I dont appreciate that Tucker on more than one occasion blurs that distinction.

Its like blurring the distinction between good cops and bad cops.”

Tucker is generally quite conservative with regard to domestic issues. He is off the rails on foreign policy. He has shown himself as a TV host, certainly not a Victor Davis Hanson or a thinker.


45 posted on 01/07/2020 9:38:43 AM PST by Pirate Ragnar
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To: SeekAndFind

We should expect some difference in view between those who agree 95% of the time. I understand that Carlson is being consistent. I also worry about being sucked into a major war with Iran but also think that the president’s actions in this case were completely appropriate. It obvious that he orchestrated the attacks on the embassy, and it is easy to see that there would have been more. So President Trump was completely in his rights to order him taken out. So, while I disagree with Carlson on this instance, I think he is spot on most of the time. That is why I watch him.


46 posted on 01/07/2020 9:39:48 AM PST by gbscott
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To: SeekAndFind
Soleimani wasn't killed for the embassy attack. He was 'targeted' because 'he' was planning widespread attacks to 'us' in the area. Soleimani was some super genius who could only round up a few guys who were only capable of pulling down welcome signs at a embassy.

Ping me once we find out the name of the defense contractor killed. I haven't seen his name released yet.

Seems like we have zero intel on the ground. Soleimani was going back and forth and had local support. The idea we must trust .gov only because our guy is in charge is a joke. Remember syria from a few months ago?

47 posted on 01/07/2020 9:45:11 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: gbscott

RE: I also worry about being sucked into a major war with Iran but also think that the president’s actions in this case were completely appropriate

If by major war, you’re talking about war in the scale of our wars with Germany or Japan or even with Saddam Hussein’s military, it AIN’T going to happen.

Iran is not going to risk going to war with us. We have them surrounded everywhere in the Middle East.

What is going to happen is what has been happening already — ASYMMETRIC and TERROR attacks with INCREASING FREQUENCY and FEROCITY.

They WILL do this on our soil and note — They WILL target prominent people to assassinate. There already have been threats against Ivanka and Melania and an $80 Million bounty on our President’s head.

Their sleepers cells are already here and many are coming from our porous Mexican border.

*THAT* is what you have to worry over.


48 posted on 01/07/2020 9:47:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: wastoute

How did the President get the Iranians to attack the US Embassy in Baghdad?

The US performed a flawless direct proportional response to the people who planned, and organized, that internationally recognized act of war. A target which has direct documented links to the assassination of 700 US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan

That you infantile scum are trying to play politics with this is yet another indication of your total unfitness to hold any political office, at any level, anywher


49 posted on 01/07/2020 9:48:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Theoria

RE: The idea we must trust .gov only because our guy is in charge is a joke. Remember syria from a few months ago?

Yes, I remember Syria. And I also remember the ACCURATE intelligence that killed Abu Bakr Albaghdadi *AND* his deputy.

Now this — Soleimani.

Not all intelligence is bad. Otherwise, we might as well dismantle them as totally useless.


50 posted on 01/07/2020 9:49:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I trust what I have known for decades about Iran, and also that this is most likely military intel, not CIA.


51 posted on 01/07/2020 9:51:38 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: Theoria

How did the President get the Iranians to attack the US Embassy in Baghdad?

The US performed a flawless direct proportional response to the people who planned, and organized, that internationally recognized act of war. A target which has direct documented links to the assassination of 700 US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan

That you infantile scum are trying to play politics with this is yet another indication of their total lack of any intellectual, or moral, credibility.

Really amazing that there are people here so blindly bigoted politically they actively serving as propaganda agents for Iran.

Really pathetic to attempt to dismiss the significance of an attack on a US Embassy as no big deal simply because it make clear the knee jerk ignorance of the political dogmas your are still mindlessly clinging to.


52 posted on 01/07/2020 9:53:00 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: stanne

>He had a nasty hateful guest on.<

Yeah, a guest who said he did not vote for President Trump and couldn’t imagine voting for him. I could watch CNN if I wanted to hear from people like that.


53 posted on 01/07/2020 9:53:04 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the deep state uses these Iranian events as a cover to try to assassinate the President.


54 posted on 01/07/2020 9:54:40 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Texas Eagle

This is a legitimate concern. Intelligence manipulates presidents and the public by feeding them information. For example, WMD in Iraq. Both Clinton and Bush believed they were going to find nukes.

If intelligence has an agenda, they can create a factual sceneriao (true, false or biased) that directs a president to their agenda. The president is really their captive and has no way to validate the info they give him.

I see this happen with staff of local government officials all the time. Staff controls the budget. Not the officials who just take what staff gives them and tweak it a little.


55 posted on 01/07/2020 9:58:40 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Tejas Rob

“ Yeah, a guest who said he did not vote for President Trump and couldn’t imagine voting for him. I could watch CNN if I wanted to hear from people like that.“

Ya. I discontinued my recording of the series. It just gets me thinking about how we need to get out of the Mideast. Well we do. But I think Trump is doing his best to do so

And whom CANhe trust?

The whole scheme looks has been in the control of the unitary year-Iran complex since GHW

Warren asked about timing. Hah. She ought to ask the Clintons


56 posted on 01/07/2020 10:03:20 AM PST by stanne
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To: xzins

I like Tucker generally but agree with your take: “Carlson is busy wasting our time while he attacks a straw man. A one-off killing in the national interest is not a war.”

In fact, I think Trump’s approach will provide us with more flexibility and a greater ability to limit our involvement in Iraq. He is forcing the Iraqis to choose sides. If they choose the Iranian side and ask our troops to leave, well that is exactly what Trump has wanted to do all along. And without our troops in Iraq exposed to attack, we will have less at risk and be more free to strike Iranian targets with greater impunity. The point is that not every use of military power is a precursor to a quagmire. Tucker is unhappy about the prospect of a ground war against Iran that is not going to happen


57 posted on 01/07/2020 10:08:01 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: MNJohnnie
'How did the President get the Iranians to attack the US Embassy in Baghdad?'

It wasn't Iranians who did it. That's part of the rub, and makes Iraq such a $hithole. Keep up the propaganda though. No intel on the ground. No resources stopping the spread of dissidence. Allowing the sectarian militias to get stronger and stronger.

58 posted on 01/07/2020 10:14:24 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just how big is the deep state now? Is it a agency created by congress?

The deep state was originally the nickname given to people like Comey, Brennan, and a few others trying to bring down the President using Russia and then the Ukraine. The way Tucker is using it, it now means the entire U.S. federal bureaucracy. That is not fair. Not everyone in DC is a political hack involved in some Byzantine scheme to bring down the President. Most of them are just doing their jobs.

59 posted on 01/07/2020 10:16:25 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

DC is not full of “political hacks”

It IS full of people who firmly believe that the US Constitution is an impediment to their careers and political aspirations and ideology.


60 posted on 01/07/2020 10:21:53 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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