Posted on 01/07/2020 8:44:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Lots of people on both sides have been caught up in contradictions trying to find some foundation of consistent principles they can hang their hats on, if you don’t mind my mixing metaphors.
I’ve said for days that the U.S. should downplay the embassy attack. I say this for one simple reason: The embassy attack is more indicative of a problem with IRAQ than with Iran. Jussi SoulMan — or whatever the hell that Iranian general’s name is — wasn’t part of an invading force from Iran. He flew right into Baghdad Airport and was targeted after basically just hopping into an Uber ride at the curb.
RE: In violation of international law he attacked a foreign embassy.
An attack on our embassy is an attack on OUR SOIL.
This is WAR whether we like it or not.
We shot down general Yamamoto’s plane in WW II to prevent him from plotting against our army. Nobody wept for him.
Now, we killed General Soleimani and that somehow is out of bounds?
If so, then we should apologize for killing Yamamoto as well.
Yep. You get down to the issue at the end of your post. It’s as if Tucker is just trying really hard to be “in the middle” on this.
RE: Jussi SoulMan — or whatever the hell that Iranian general’s name is — wasn’t part of an invading force from Iran.
Oh, and we was simply a tourist from Iran having nothing to do with the attacks on our embassy right?
So frankly, I don’t know what Tulsi Carlson is doing here other than making some noise. It’s grandstanding of the worst kind.
Graham offering the Mueller Protection Act in the US Senate was far worse “grandstanding” than anything Tucker has done. That, in fact, undermined POTUS and the MAGA agenda. Pay no attention to that now, though.
I don’t agree completely with Tucker but he’s got a point here: those in government that have done little but undermine POTUS and the MAGA agenda the past 3 years are not deserving of our trust on anything. Given that the CIA hoaxblower is still sipping his starbucks pumpkin latte at his desk in Langley I wouldn’t take anything coming out of that building as truthful. Sadly, Our institutions are corrupt that their core now.
Not for one second would I think there would be such a reaction over some little insignificant foot soldier.
AllahPundit, so transparent as to be laughable.
Tucker is correct but misses the other half here. The Corollary question could be asked as well. Namely, since when doesn’t the left trust the intel. After all, during the entire Russia Hoax and FISA scandal they told us that Trump was criminal, a traitor for daring to question the intel community and its motives. Two months ago when he withdrew from Syria we were told he wasn’t listening to the intel and was abandoning our allies. I believe AllahJokePundit was such a critic.
Now, not so much. Now, it’s about Trump relying on faulty intel and being a warmonger.
Which brings one back to AllahFool. Like the dems and every NeverTrumper, the merits of issue are not important. Rather, the contrarian rage is the driver. I hate Trump, therefore I am!
As for Tucker. He is consistent here and not driven by contrarian rage. He has noted that Trump has largely resisted the Deep State/Insider/McCain push to war war and more war!!! Trump has launched two strikes and restrained from launching countless others. Tucker is correct not to throw Trump under the bus as the record indicates he will not silly nilly exercise American military power. The insiders, or so much.
Spewing what ifs as known facts.
As such, I'd say the whole purpose of citing "U.S. intelligence information about an imminent attack on U.S. interests by Iran" is to provide public justification for something that President Trump wanted to do anyway. Maybe it was a good idea, and maybe it wasn't ... but it sure as hell wasn't done because of any "imminent attack" on anything.
Never trust your government.
That's not what I said. My point is that he was in Iraq because he was invited there -- and had probably been traveling freely in Iraq for years.
Like I said ... IRAQ is the real problem here, not Iran. We know what Iran is, but for some reason we have this delusional idea that Iraq is actually different.
Perhaps the President should withdraw all the security (and the staff) from that Embassy and post Tucker there to reason with the Mullahs!
Carlson is busy wasting our time while he attacks a straw man. A one-off killing in the national interest is not a war.
Remember Reagan doing the same with his jet attack on Qaddafi? Reagan delivered a message by special courier
RE: Maybe it was a good idea, and maybe it wasn’t ... but it sure as hell wasn’t done because of any “imminent attack” on anything.
So, your reasoning sounds like this — our military intelligence LIES like every other government bureaucracy does and the recent attacks on our embassy is just a one time thing that will not be repeated anyway.
> “He was the guy, remember, who allegedly helped persuade the president not to hit back at Iran last summer after they downed a U.S. drone.”
Utter BS.
POTUS explained very well himself why he declined to retaliate against the Iranian Regime for last year’s drone attack. Carlson had zero to do with the decision.
“RE: The mullah’s terrorist general was plotting right inside Iraq directly after the attack on the US Embassy.
That was Tucker’s point.”
Yes, Tulsi Carlson’s point is moot. That’s MY point.
The Mullah terrorist general came to Baghdad for reasons, none of them good.
He’s a military combatant who engaged with US forces through his directed militias for years.
For years!
What part of this do people not get? Tulsi Carlson is being a buffoon and I don’t care how stupid and dense he wants to be on this topic. It’s over and the best thing in the region in years.
Many victims of Soleimani in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen and Libya will agree. They number in the hundreds of thousands.
RE: Remember Reagan doing the same with his jet attack on Qaddafi? Reagan delivered a message by special courier
Heck, Reagan did even worse than what Trump did. In 1988, our Navy DESTROYED half of Iran’s navy in Operation Praying Mantis.
This happened when the guided missile frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts struck a mine while deployed in the Persian Gulf.
For those who don’t remember, read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
No. My point is that President Trump doesn't need military intelligence to tell him that the U.S. embassy in Baghdad is vulnerable to attack from Islamic mutants.
President Trump himself described the George W. Bush decision to invade Iraq as one of the worst blunders in the history of our country. If it were up to Trump, the U.S. embassy wouldn't even be there.
The mistake Tucker is making is not thinking it all the way through and coming to the conclusion that you came to. Salamami is a terrorist. He plans attacks.
The Deep State may have been calling President Trump's bluff and he pulled 52 Aces out of his sleeve and went all in.
What Tucker fails to take into consideration is that if President Trump HADN'T taken Samalamadingdong out when he had the chance simply because it originated from The Deep State, the cacophony from the Left would've been unparalleled.
What's the possible "dual use" excuse on this one that our intelligence is missing?
-PJ
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