Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on 01/06/2020 8:20:58 AM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:

The fundamental question is - why don’t you search before posting?

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=middle



Skip to comments.

The Fundamental Question Is: Why Is America Still In The Middle East?
The Federalist ^ | 01/06/2020 | By Willis L. Krumholz

Posted on 01/06/2020 7:40:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind

D.C. is all worked up over the killing of Qasem Soleimani, Iran’s top military operator. Democrats, driven by anti-Trump madness, have taken to eulogizing Soleimani. That’s insane. Meanwhile, D.C. Republicans are ecstatic about the killing.

Soleimani certainly deserved it. During the heyday of the Shiite uprising in Iraq, his forces were responsible for bombs that killed countless American servicemembers. It’s good that he is dead.

Soleimani was hit because Iranian proxies were behind recent attacks in Iraq, including one that killed an American contractor. The White House hopes this will warn Iran that America means business, and that Iran will cease its meddling in Iraq and stand down. Middle America hopes this is exactly what happens.

But D.C.’s hysteria is dangerous. The strike wasn’t necessarily wrong, but the president must tread carefully. Too much of D.C. wants him not to.

One side is too often blinded by a hysteria about the president that precludes a rational discussion. The other side has extreme hawkishness on Iran that the American people don’t match. People can celebrate Soleimani’s death, but many of the hawks in D.C. hope there’s more to come, and will push for it.

The Middle East’s Reality

Shiite Muslim Iran is next door to Iraq, of which 60 percent is Shiite. Some on Twitter posted videos of Iraqis celebrating in the streets about the Soleimani strike. Except these Iraqis are likely Sunnis, who make up around 30 percent of Iraq’s population. Much of the Shiite portion is furious at Soleimani’s death.

America is on a sectarian landmine. The big picture in the Middle East is that Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims are locked in a 1,400 year-old civil war between the two main branches of Islam. What America has been doing in the Middle East for the last two decades, wittingly or not, is taking sides in this civil war, which could last a thousand more years. If America is sucked into open war with Iran, we would be explicitly taking a side in this religious war. But taking a side is a false choice, especially given America’s newfound energy independence.

Iran is an evil regime, but the United States’s allies in the Middle East—including Saudi Arabia and Qatar—are all unsavory Sunni countries. Iran has not chiefly funded an organization that did mass beheadings, raped Yazidis, and drowned Christians. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and North Atlantic Treaty Organization member Turkey have. Beltway types talk about Iran being the number-one state sponsor of terror, when all the terror groups Americans have heard of—including al Qaeda and ISIS—are Sunni, and associated with our Sunni allies.

Pundits are comparing Soleimani to Osama bin Laden. But there’s a big difference between Soleimani’s brand of terror, which operated within the rationale of the Shiite Iranian state, and the Sunni Muslim terror of Osama bin Laden.

Iraq borders Iran to its west. The country that borders Iran to its east is Afghanistan. In other words, Iran is surrounded by U.S. troops. When Shiite Soleimani committed the evil act of funding Shiite militias in Iraq with bombs and weapons, which killed U.S. troops, it was the Iranian state’s way of imposing costs on America’s presence next door.

This isn’t making apology for the evil Iran regime. But ditching nuance, and not understanding the motivation of one’s enemy, is a recipe for getting thousands of American young men killed in a “s—thole country.” That’s unacceptable.

A pundit actually said that Iran would prove how irrational it was when it struck back, likely via proxies. But a country that feels encircled, like a wild animal, usually tries to retaliate. We must be prepared for that, and prepare tough responses that don’t lead to all-out war.

In the next few weeks, it is even possible that Iran responds through its Shia militia proxies with attacks on U.S. troops. That would force the United States to up the ante. The D.C. crowd would cheer, as war with Iran became more of a reality.

But war with Iran is fundamentally a D.C. craze. It isn’t in the interest of America, or normal Americans. The connected blue checks on Twitter, or the pundits talking to the camera on Fox News, won’t see their kids or neighbors fight, relatively speaking. Middle America would disproportionately bear the cost, as it always does.

DC Has a Track Record of Stupid Wars

Eggheads sitting in a cushy office came up with plans to overthrow dictators like Saddam Hussein and Muammar Qaddafi in Libya, only to create power vacuums that resulted in violence and increased sectarian strife. They talk about a Shiite crescent—meaning Iran controlling land from Iran to Syria—but they made this possible with the overthrow of Saddam.

The same crowd was desperate to join our Sunni Muslim “allies” to overthrow Syrian semi-Shia dictator Bashar al-Assad. What followed was human misery on a massive scale. Meanwhile, America turned a blind eye to Gulf allies like Saudi Arabia arming jihadists, including al-Qaeda and its affiliates. D.C. spent $1 billion a year arming “moderate rebels” in Syria, who were to fight the Assad regime. The program was wildly unsuccessful, and ended up arming jihadists.

The CIA helped countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar get western weapons into Syria, many of which ended up in the arms of radical jihadists. All the “Benghazi” stuff you used to hear about, including the presence of Americans in Libya, and the fact that those Americans were relatively unguarded, was possibly because the CIA was running a “rat-line” of weapons into Syria. Even the rise of the despicable Islamic State, or ISIS, was heavily aided by the large cache of Saudi and U.S.-supplied weapons floating around in Syria and Iraq.

Why Is America Still in the Middle East?

The worst part about these interventions is when America wrecks something, it owns it. We’ve been in Iraq more or less since 2003. We are still in Syria, even though President Trump saw extreme bipartisan and media criticism for moving a few hundred troops out of one area.

Americans now understand America has a Hotel California foreign policy.

We’ve been in Afghanistan nearly 20 years, even though the Taliban currently controls the same area of land that it did a decade ago. Our servicemembers in Afghanistan are forced to defend warlords and Afghan security forces who practice child rape.

All told, we’ve spent $6.4 trillion in Middle East wars and the war on terror. Americans now understand America has a Hotel California foreign policy. People in D.C. get us in places, and while we can check out any time we like, we can never leave.

The real question is: why is America still in Iraq, or the Middle East at all? Yes, America pulling out would cause uncertainty and increased violence. But it’s likely remaining in the Middle East is making things worse, emboldening bad actors on both sides of the Sunni-Shia divide. That doesn’t mean America is the bad guy, or doesn’t provide short-term stability, but sometimes short-term stability is undesirable, and breeds long-term instability.

Besides, these are not our fights. Trying to control the entire Middle East is neither possible nor a U.S. national security interest.

End the Washington Cesspool

Too often, people in D.C. make money from the messes they create. They get the contracts, the foreign policy prognosticating gigs, and the book and speaking tours. Normal America gets a higher national debt and even more strained national budget. And it’s our sons, daughters, brothers, cousins, and friends who go fight D.C.’s stupid wars.

As pundits and bureaucrats rotate from think tank job to government job and back again, how does this not affect policy?

After all these years of failure, the conservative party in America—containing pundits and politicians who will quickly claim they can’t do much about Normal America’s ills—is still perfectly happy to intervene in countries that most Americans can’t find on a map. The last time this worked was World War II, and maybe Korea. We’ve had many wars and interventions since that time.

Meanwhile, Normal America has all sorts of unaddressed problems: low wages for working males, single mothers yearning for happiness, dilapidated towns, abortion, crime, drugs, and hurting children.

Besides realigning U.S. military priorities, one solution to this misalignment of priorities is strict reporting laws and enforcement for foreign money. Too many of Washington’s pundits and think tanks take money from Saudi Arabia or Qatar, for example. The influential Brookings Institution receives all sorts of money from Qatar. As pundits and bureaucrats rotate from think tank job to government job and back again, how does this not affect policy?

Most importantly, America must get completely out of Iraq, and the Middle East. America won’t be around forever. You can count on that. But the longer we stay in the Middle East, the more we hasten the day that America ceases to exist. Or, worse, becomes unrecognizable from the good and just place it should be.


Willis L. Krumholz is a fellow at Defense Priorities. He holds a JD and MBA degree from the University of St. Thomas, and works in the financial services industry. The views expressed are those of the author only.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: middleeast; military

1 posted on 01/06/2020 7:40:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
The answer used to be because of oil. Except we don't need their oil anymore. I guess we are there for everyone else oil.
2 posted on 01/06/2020 7:44:29 AM PST by outpostinmass2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: outpostinmass2

RE: I guess we are there for everyone else oil.

If they want oil from there, they can provide defense for the oil they need. Otherwise, buy the oil from us.


3 posted on 01/06/2020 7:45:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
I would say search still works, but that is only intermittently true.
4 posted on 01/06/2020 7:45:47 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Agreed.


5 posted on 01/06/2020 7:47:54 AM PST by outpostinmass2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

because of the petrodollar ..


6 posted on 01/06/2020 7:48:01 AM PST by ßuddaßudd ((>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: outpostinmass2
The United States is energy independent and no longer need ME oil and its byproducts. We produce as much as we consume.

That leaves Israel which is an important ally; both politically and Biblically.

7 posted on 01/06/2020 7:49:54 AM PST by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Already posted HERE. Same title, same author.
8 posted on 01/06/2020 7:50:14 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Many US politicians are being lubed by Saudi money and campaign contributions from the military industrial complex.

The Europeans should be diplomatically and militarily securing their flow of petroleum from the Middle East. They’ve done a masterful job of playing US politicians, journalists, and intellectuals to ensure the US taxpayer funds their defense and keeps the flow of oil open.


9 posted on 01/06/2020 7:52:40 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dhs12345

+1000


10 posted on 01/06/2020 7:55:24 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: dhs12345

Politically, yes. Biblically - show me a Biblical Israel, and I might agree. The modern nation of Israel is not “Israel” from a biblical sense.

Israel as a modern nation DOES have the right to exist and defend itself.


11 posted on 01/06/2020 7:59:39 AM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Once you grasp a tarbaby it gets exponentially more difficult to extract yourself from it’s embrace.

Notice the hysterics in DC, and the Fake Media, when Trump moved less then 1000 people out of Syria?

Imagine how much greater the hysteria will be if Trump simply shut down all operations in the ME?


12 posted on 01/06/2020 8:03:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Oil.
The economy of the world is dependent for now on the area’s oil.
The next big reason is nuclear weapons that Iran will use if we do not kill their leaders.


13 posted on 01/06/2020 8:07:52 AM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: minnesota_bound
The next big reason is nuclear weapons that Iran will use if we do not kill their leaders.

Yep, simple choice here.

14 posted on 01/06/2020 8:08:40 AM PST by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Israel. Period


15 posted on 01/06/2020 8:09:25 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Our enemy, China, imports close to 50% of their oil needs from the Middle East and are by far the largest importer of Middle Eastern oil. If they lose that source of supply, a large part of their economy shuts down. They have not lost one life in that hellhole defending their source of supply. Let George do it seems to be working for them as a foreign policy approach when it comes to the Middle East


16 posted on 01/06/2020 8:11:14 AM PST by chuckee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Oh I think Trump is getting us out of the Mideast

A lot of cash to former and current pols

When we got back from Saudi i the early ‘90s the headline readers were screeching about no war for oil.

Well, we need oil.

The answer is to use our own and get off of depending on the ME wacko people for it

The headline readers’ favorite president tgat horrible b Clinton and congress increased our dependency on Mideast oil by a tremendous amount

The headline readers did not know that, being uninformed, by choice

I knew it. If I know it, Trump knows it

He is not like the presidents of the past 30 years. He is a US patriot

He does not put up with pols selling our country to the ME wackos

He will likely get us out of there

Our military will gladly follow


17 posted on 01/06/2020 8:13:27 AM PST by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Truthoverpower

Why? Because it’s the world center of Christianity ! that’s why

Galilee Jerusalem Bethlehem you name it.

The Jewish people will never let the Arabs and Muslims run over and destroy it defile it and the United States of America will back our Jewish bretgren and make sure this never happens

You can talk about oil or any other crap that you wanted but this is plain and simple the reason why were always going to be in the Middle East


18 posted on 01/06/2020 8:13:31 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson