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Trump administration proposal endangers food stamps for millions
NBC News ^ | Nov 30, 2019 | Phil McCausland

Posted on 11/30/2019 8:06:21 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

Three proposed rule changes by the Trump administration could cause millions of poor people to lose access to food stamps and decrease the size of the benefit for millions more.

Over the past year, the Department of Agriculture proposed three changes to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as SNAP or food stamps. The new rules create stricter work requirements for program eligibility, cap deductions for utility allowances and "reform" the way 40 states automatically enroll families into SNAP when they receive other forms of federal aid.

A study by the Urban Institute released this week examined the three rules in combination for the first time and found that 3.7 million fewer people would receive SNAP in an average month, 2.2 million households would see their average monthly benefits drop by $127, more than 3 million others would see an average drop of $37 per month, and 982,000 students would lose access to free or reduced lunches.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: endallhandouts; endsocialsecuritytoo; foodstamps; nomorehandouts; snap; welfare
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

You know I think people would be more supportive of SNAP if it really operated as it was intended. But that would mean no piling your cart with foods the average middle class family can’t afford. It would mean boxes of chocs were out and bags of rice and beans were in. It makes little sense to tighten eligibility if additional reforms to the program aren’t implemented. Because it may not change overall spending if high cost food items are still allowed.


61 posted on 11/30/2019 12:20:28 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well, to be fair you need a valid phone number to get any job, even a job at McDonald’s.


62 posted on 11/30/2019 12:20:49 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: bgill

Kind of a catch 22. It’s not the kid’s fault his mother sells her food stamps and uses the money for fake nails, weaves, or drugs. If she cared about her child, she wouldn’t do that (or a lot of other things). There are several subcultures in America, that only God can change. Unfortunately, the people involved have to want to change. We didn’t get in this mess overnight, and it’s not going to go away overnight, either. BTW, IMHO, able bodied adults should be made to do without, if they won’t get out and get a job.


63 posted on 11/30/2019 1:02:40 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: bgill

You’re mean. They might chip a nail!/sarc


64 posted on 11/30/2019 1:08:52 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: mom aka the evil dictator

My first husband worked at a housing project. Green Giant would donate truckloads of frozen foods, most of which went into the dumpster, after the distribution day would end. “That white people food. We don’t eat that!” Sometimes, he’d dig some out of the dumpster and bring it home. It was foods we couldn’t afford to buy, like toaster pastries, vegetables in cheese sauce, high end side dishes.


65 posted on 11/30/2019 1:14:25 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: GaryCrow

There are plenty of daycares (of course many of them are subsidized, too). I stayed home with my kids for years. My husband didn’t want me to work, so we just did without. I went back to school and work when our youngest was in kindergarten. My beautiful grandbaby is sick right now, because he picked up some kind of crud at daycare. But my daughter and her husband both work, to provide for their kids.


66 posted on 11/30/2019 1:23:16 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Artemis Webb

Currently, there are dozens of means-tested benefit programs, administered by dozens of agencies, making it easier to bury the total value of benefits a person gets.

What’s needed is to merge all these programs into one agency, institute a dollar cap, and require biometric identification to get any benefit, to include iris scan and facial scan. Fingerprints too.

https://www.nationallatinonetwork.org/asscessing-resources/public-benefits/federal-benefits/federal-means-tested-public-benefits


67 posted on 11/30/2019 1:45:49 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This story is confusing— says changes in SNAP rules may force people to choose between paying for food & paying for housing.

I’ve always heard homeless people cannot get food stamps—
and most other benefits as well— because they don’t have an address.

Can someone clarify?


68 posted on 11/30/2019 2:03:25 PM PST by mumblypeg
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Now if we could just follow through by eliminating all “entitlements” on the way to eliminating all agencies, bureaus, and departments back to the original 4...


69 posted on 11/30/2019 2:56:11 PM PST by arthurus (ccxccc|ddo...>>\/Vv|-)
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To: FormerFRLurker
Well, to be fair you need a valid phone number to get any job, even a job at McDonald’s.

Yeah, but these are 14 year olds. They aren't working.

70 posted on 11/30/2019 3:27:00 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: ridesthemiles; dfwgator; Da Coyote; Artemis Webb; manc; where's_the_Outrage?
I have questioned for YEARS whether there is ANY cross-communication between the Schools free lunches & the Welfare food stamps.

Cross-communication does happen somewhat I think, but what I suspect is that of claiming to be the sole provider for the kids while hiding the BF (or GF), while some also run a daycare and or part-time catering business.

However, the determination of being in need of food stamps is not based upon a lack of food, but on the invented condition called "food insecurity." And as an investigation I myself did and posted a while back helped reveal how the numbers were arrived at via craftily contrived questions.

Read em: Food hunger in America: More Hype than Reality. Why?

71 posted on 11/30/2019 7:20:05 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Oh, you mean those grossly overweight folks loading up on filet mignon, dragon fruit and other expensive stuff on our dime? Then taking it home in a late model car? The ones I usually see whipping out an EBT card? Trump can eliminate food stamps for those grifters with my blessing.


72 posted on 11/30/2019 8:16:21 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: ridesthemiles

I thought that they (Michelle Obama) cut food stamps to help pay for more school lunches.


73 posted on 11/30/2019 9:30:24 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I didn’t hear them cry when Moochelle said “Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.” ???


74 posted on 12/01/2019 4:03:14 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: bgill
Trump should also put restrictions on what EBT cards can buy. Nothing but real food and no restaurants.

A temporary solution (until ALL welfare can be pushed back to the state level) would be to work with food banks, charities, maybe Wally World, and make food stamps only useable for base goods. Beans, rice, dry noodles, cheaper fruits/veggies, flour, meats under $4/lb, and so on. You either pick up a weekly allotment at the food bank, or you are extremely limited in what you can buy at the store. Basic staples and that's it.

You limit food stamps to just food, and I bet a third to half of food stampers would self-disenroll.
75 posted on 12/01/2019 7:21:12 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: EinNYC

exactly the same thing I see too


76 posted on 12/01/2019 9:04:00 AM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: redshawk

yep I know one of them in GA who is supposed to be working on Fridays at ho9me and yet never does.


77 posted on 12/01/2019 9:06:43 AM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Of course, the Fake News doesn’t point out that specifically ABLE-BODIED persons with NO DEPENDENTS who are GENERATIONAL welfare cheats will have a work requirement. And oh, the huge manatee, they have to work 20 hours per week!

BOO HOO, SNIFF SNIFF, WEEP WEEP!!

I’m sorry, I can’t talk anymore, the cruelty and inhuge manatee have crushed my spirit. I need to go lie down for awhile.


78 posted on 12/01/2019 9:15:58 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: Jane Long

No, I agree this generational welfare crap needs to cease. As long as the liberals seek to give away everything the working class earn things will never change.


79 posted on 12/03/2019 8:43:38 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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