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To respect Civil Rights Act, Supreme Court must bar discrimination against LGBT people
Sacramento Bee ^ | Sept 22, 2019 | Erwin Chemerinsky

Posted on 09/23/2019 6:08:25 AM PDT by fwdude

The Supreme Court should hold that the federal statute which prohibits employment discrimination “because of sex” prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and against transgender individuals.

When the Supreme Court returns from its summer recess, among the first cases it will hear will be three that raise the important question of whether federal law prohibiting employment discrimination protects LGBTQ individuals.

Until 1964, no federal law prohibited employment discrimination. The landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 changed this by forbidding employers from discriminating based on race, sex or religion. There have been many attempts to amend the law to expressly prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation, but Congress never has done this.

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To: fwdude

The Civil rights act is unconstitutional. The Bill of Rights is to limit government not citizens.


21 posted on 09/23/2019 6:37:53 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: CitizenUSA
...I think the goal of civil rights legislation was admirable. I just think the leaders at that time created a bigger mess by trying to fix discrimination via unconstitutional means rather than letting the culture evolve over time.

Amen. Excellent post overall.

The CRA’s aim was to nullify state control of businesses in the form of Jim Crow laws, law which MANDATED discrimination. The law went too far and mandated the same state control over businesses that were in existence before the law, only a different citizenry were oppressed.

22 posted on 09/23/2019 6:38:40 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

I see you get it, fwdude. Posters in this thread are discussing if LGBT employment should be covered by the CRA when they should be questioning why the CRA is legal in the first place. They are starting from a faulty premise, that government has the right to force someone to employ people they have fundamental disagreements with, simply because the first person wants to open a business.

Granted, it’s pretty stupid to discriminate against customers on the basis of skin color, but employment goes way beyond just being a customer. Employees can be almost as close as family in some businesses. Government needs to keep its nose out!


23 posted on 09/23/2019 6:47:01 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: fwdude

Why? because someone somewhere once said “fag?”


24 posted on 09/23/2019 6:47:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: fwdude

You can bet if it becomes law it will only be used in certain ways. It will never be used to force a Hindu gas station owner to hire a Muslim from Pakistan. I can think of a number of scenarios where it will NEVER be used.


25 posted on 09/23/2019 6:47:49 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fwdude

The only special right should be the right to closet space


26 posted on 09/23/2019 6:48:42 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: fwdude

No, to respect both the statute and the Constitution, the Supreme Court should refuse to be a super-legislature. If people want the law changed, we already have 2, count’em TWO, branches of government besides the courts to do that - first, you have the Congress (legislative - that’s a thing) to pass a bill, and the President (Executive) to sign it into law if he so deems. If he doesn’t, then the Congress can override his veto. The courts are NOT in any way involved in the legislative process, mainly because no one ever voted for them to have such powers, and they are unaccountable (unlike the Congress and President).

Not just no, but PHUCK no!


27 posted on 09/23/2019 6:49:11 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: fwdude

So LGTB people should have special class protection??


28 posted on 09/23/2019 6:50:31 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: treetopsandroofs

One and the same. Nothing either one of them says is worth anyone’s time.


29 posted on 09/23/2019 6:52:00 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: fwdude

LGBT people have the same rights as everyone else you Do Not get more rights


30 posted on 09/23/2019 6:55:53 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: CitizenUSA
Except that civil rights protection is entirely unconstitutional in the first place. Nothing in the US Constitution prohibits a private employer from discriminating on ANY basis. The constitution was only written to limit the powers of government. It wasn’t designed to force private citizen to associate against their will, so-called public accomodations notwithstanding, with other citizens.

Precisely. Requiring the government to be colorblind is acceptable. Requiring private citizens to associate with people they do not wish to, is tyranny.

It is a basic violation of freedom of association.

31 posted on 09/23/2019 6:57:02 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: CitizenUSA
When so-called “conservatives” take the decidedly defensive position of conceding that “civil rights” protections are legitimate, but don’t include sexual deviants, they are using a losing strategy. The homo-left sees this and laughs. They know that it has no teeth to combat them.
32 posted on 09/23/2019 6:57:26 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: bert; et al

“The only special right should be the right to closet space”

In an institutional setting........


33 posted on 09/23/2019 7:04:54 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW.)
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To: Ancesthntr

The CRA infringes on constitutional rights in the first place. It’s like two wrongs making a right. If they wanted to do the CRA the right way, they would have amended the US Constitution, but that would have taken too much time and super majority support. Instead, they de facto amended the constitution with legislation.

Now we have a competing mess of individual “rights” under the law. The legal battles never end—the fighting between citizens over whose “rights” are supreme—because Congress and the courts took a clear legal principle and destroyed it.


34 posted on 09/23/2019 7:05:24 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: fwdude

I guess our long standing and hard fought for Constitution is not enough for the sodomites.


35 posted on 09/23/2019 7:05:37 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: fwdude

Exactly right, fwdude. Once someone accepts the legitimacy of civil rights legislation, the clear principle of freedom of association is lost and the argument devolves into a mishmash of competing rights.


36 posted on 09/23/2019 7:11:09 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Even left to the federal legislature, this issue FAR outside of the purview of the Federal government, per the 10th Amendment.

The power of the federal government is DELIBERATELY made very limited and hamstrung, by design.


37 posted on 09/23/2019 7:20:07 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Agreed. But the USSC will not take that issue up - the actual case or controversy that is likely to come before it as some point is the assertion that the CRA applies to transformers. The Court will only address what actually comes before it.


38 posted on 09/23/2019 7:25:17 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: CitizenUSA

Agreed. But the USSC will not take that issue up - the actual case or controversy that is likely to come before it as some point is the assertion that the CRA applies to transformers. The Court will only address what actually comes before it.


39 posted on 09/23/2019 7:25:50 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: fwdude

Nowhere in the Constitution is a requirement that an employer must accommodate a person who is mentally ill (i.e., trans-”gendered”).


40 posted on 09/23/2019 7:31:29 AM PDT by glennaro
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