Posted on 05/06/2019 3:30:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
Facebook and Instagram took the extraordinary step last week of banning several far right commentators and one left-wing anti-Semite (yeah, that was news to The Washington Post) from their platforms entirely. It was the latest in a series of moves over the past several months and years designed to curb what the platforms liberal management and ownership see as dangerous, albeit not illegal, speech.
Before Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, and Milo, it was key alt-right figures like Jared Taylor, David Duke and Richard Spencer being purged from various platforms. Next, will it be religious groups that oppose gay marriage, anti-illegal immigration organizations or even those who dont believe the entire Third World should be brought to the United States en masse? Maybe those affected are a few ideological steps away, but we should all be asking the question: How many steps until its us?
Sure, Alex Jones and Infowars, much less Louis Farrakhan, have said and published a lot of things that are easy to disagree with. But in Jones case, at least, nobody of any credibility has accused him of being a racist, and while some content on the Infowars website certainly consists of outlandish speculation at best, such a description might have on occasion fit Trumps fake news targets The Washington Post and New York Times.
In other words, its a slippery slope, one that leads us down an increasingly undesirable path where the only speech that is acceptable is that which does not offend a single person - or basically no speech at all. Yes, it was done by a private corporation and not a governmental entity, and as such was legal, but such moves do have ominous portents about the future ability of conservatives to tell the truth and spread our message.
Politico senior writer Jack Shafer pointed out Friday that, while what goes on on the platform is Facebooks house, there are free speech health implications to both governmental and corporate attempts to shut it down.
Free speechs health has traditionally been measured in America not by what we will allow speakers to say, although that is important, but what listeners will tolerate, he wrote. If enough of us stomach the dissemination of wicked conspiracy theories, race hatred, radicalism, blasphemy, poisonous lies, militancy, fearmongering and ugliness, thats a good sign that free speech has found a safe harbor. But if the government censors the bounders and miscreants who spew these ideasor if corporations, churches and other organizations work to strangle their expressionsthen free speech is in trouble.
Reasons Nick Gillespie argues that such moves feeds into the tendency to try suppress beliefs that one considers contemptible, dangerous, or evil. Those are not sharply delimited categories, and the tendency will be for more and more material to be seen as worthy of being policed, regulated, and eliminated. That is what's happening on many college campuses, and the results are not encouraging for a society that believes in freedom of expression.
Whereas liberals have historically been the ones defending free speech at all costs, this time conservatives are up in arms because it is conservative voices and opinions that are being suppressed, not by government, but by private corporations whose power, particularly over the public consciousness, rivals that of any nation. Except, when it comes to solutions, conservatives often run into conflict with their own stated values. Government cannot regulate speech, said the good libertarian, but a private corporation can do whatever it wants.
Okay, but what happens when that private corporation is a virtual (no pun intended) monopoly? I suppose theres no need to ask, because its happening now. Dont like it? Go start your own social media platform! a conservative or libertarian might say smugly, as if it were just a matter of learning a little code and a making a quick visit to GoDaddy. Yeah, good luck with that.
Sure, some have tried to make platforms to rival Facebook and Twitter (theres the horribly hard to navigate Gab, and have you ever heard of any of these Facebook alternatives?), but any would-be competitors are sunk before they even begin by the very definition of a successful social network - everyone wants to be where everyone else is. Once Facebook and Twitter - two different types of platforms - gained peak popularity as the platform of choice for that style, it became nearly impossible to dethrone them absent a shift of monumental proportions. Even when companies create features people enjoy, Facebooks billions can simply purchase or copy them. Even if someone were willing to risk a few billion of their own dollars in a foolhardy attempt to create the next Facebook, the user network is the key and theyd be starting at zero. Facebooks unparalleled user numbers combined with unrivaled riches amounts to a monopoly that would put U.S. Steel to shame.
So were left with a digital public square of sorts that has replaced the old one, brought about by the rise of the internet and its limitless possibilities and controlled by a few powerful corporations who happen to be do-gooder liberal types who think that socialism is cool and free speech drools.
But, what to do? Lets hope President Trump will put his money where his mouth is on the issue and get SOMETHING done, but not every suggestion is a good one. Texas Senator Ted Cruzs approach would potentially remove the immunity social media platforms that engage in speech censorship currently enjoy from Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which otherwise holds platforms legally liable for content posted by users. By Cruzs logic, if Facebook sees itself as the arbiter of speech on the internet, they are no longer a neutral public forum and should not enjoy those benefits. Except, would removing this protection merely hoist conservatives by their own petard by forcing Facebook to simply ban any speech it deems remotely questionable?
In his article on the subject, Gillespie recommends that social media networks install a series of robust filters that allow people to block certain types of content, even if such content is posted by friends and family members. It would work, and its a great idea, but methinks these social media giants arent interested in a solution that allows free speech. Could they have more nefarious motives? After all, they want to ban speech, not debate or debunk it. Why? What are they afraid of? an inquiring mind might ask.
At any rate, the only viable solution - and the sooner every conservative and free-thinking liberal gets there, the better - is for these social media giants to be regulated just like any other public utility. While illegal speech such as harassment and incitements to violence would still be illegal and prosecutable, everything else would be allowed.
Just as everyone, regardless of their political opinion, has the right to purchase electricity or running water, EVERYONE should have the right to speak freely on what has, for all intents and purposes, become the public square. Anything less is Un-American.
Liberals' defense of free speech extends only to porn and obscenity. Always has, never more.
These are blatant attempts to manipulate the 2020 elections. The FEC can thus involve itself. There is also an obvious case to be made that Facebook, Google, Twitter, Instagram et al are the new, digital “public square” our Founders never envisioned, and thus subject to government regulation and enforcement, as if they were stopping free speech on a street corner or public park.
“The tech giants won’t allow it.”
Remember this?
“Today, we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives. We have created, for the first time in all history, a garden of pure ideologywhere each worker may bloom, secure from the pests purveying contradictory truths. Our Unification of Thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause. Our enemies shall talk themselves to death, and we will bury them with their own confusion. We shall prevail!”
Ironic, isn’t it?
David Duke isn’t “alt-right”. He’s still supporting Democrats.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/7/david-duke-praises-rep-ilhan-omar/
In a society were competition is the key business driver, you need a competing platform with a better message. This is how Fox joined the herd and actually became a better station than its competitors.
Facebook is necessary for commerce for so much these days.
If you haven’t noticed, local newspaper and tv and radio coverage are a thing of the past.
Where would a bar/nightclub advertise their booking schedule without it?
Where would a car show promoter advertise and highlight the event?
art opening?
Lecture?
New releases from your publishing company or inventory in your store?
“Free Republic is my social media”
The problem with your social media is that 99% percent of the people have never heard of it, and of the remaining 1%, half of them would like to ban it and dox all of us. Given the state of things in California, I would not be surprised if exactly that happens.
99.99% of what is on FB is an "all about me" statement.
I dumped my FB account about a year ago. I realized that FB was able to draw many conclusions about me based on NOT what I posted there, but what my friends posted there. Scarey.
Good thought.
It's deliberate. The media loves to toss KKKlown David Duke and goose-stepping Nazi fool Richard Spencer in with all the reasonable, lucid pro-Trump figures on the right who are actually reaching people and changing minds like Paul Joseph Watson, Gavin McInnes, Laura Loomer and others as if they are all from the same cauldron of racist, anti-semitic Nazi-worshippers.
down an increasingly undesirable path where the only speech that is acceptable is that which does not offend a single person - or basically no speech at all
Dont be stupid. Speech that offends white Christians will not only be acceptable under this system, it will be required.
“I dumped my FB account about a year ago”
Me too. 2 months ago. It is inconvenient at times, but worth it to say FU to Facebook.
Facebook is already collaborating with the Chinese government to measure peoples social worth.
They are assembling tons of information on you whether you have an account or not.
Once the benefits of the Facebook-China project are proclaimed to the world, people in the West will be able to have a voluntary social worth score. Within five years, you will need it to buy groceries.
The time to stop this is right now.
THE NASTY OL’ PATENT
Big Tech is NOT free market.
Big Tech has patent monopoly protection, by big Govt, on significant simple processes like ONE TOUCH ordering. Other websites cannot be built without violating numerous trivial things.
Mouse clicking
Displaying a picture
Touching your screen
Big Tech OWNS the internet by patents.
Build your own Twitter or Facebook, you will be shut down.
You Conservatives are banned, you have no right to exist per the Democrat Party. So just SHUT THE HECK UP!
I do not want to hear from you again.
Facebook is monitored by every single local law enforcement division across America. They have persons who do nothing but troll controversial topics in a community looking for anti social behavior, according to liberals.
“Sure, Alex Jones and Infowars, ... have said and published a lot of things that are easy to disagree with.”
Sure, Alex Jones and Infowars, ... have said and published a lot of things that are easy to AGREE with, a lot of things everyone else is afraid to say.
“But in Jones case, at least, nobody of any credibility has accused him of being a racist,...” because HE IS NOT A RACIST, just like Trump IS NOT A RACIST.
“...while some content on the Infowars website certainly consists of outlandish speculation at best, such a description might have on occasion fit Trumps fake news targets The Washington Post and New York Times. “
while SOME content on the Infowars website certainly consists of outlandish speculation at best, MOST content is TRUE and groundbreaking.
If you don’t listen to/read INFOWARS or NEWSWARS you are less informed than you could be or should be.
Don’t throw Alex Jones out with the bath water.
Because... you don’t know, what you don’t know.
“You all dont comment on my hair and clothes,...”
Post some pictures of yourself and we’ll see if you’re “guilty” or not :)
The problem is no one can prove it is a monopoly “in restraint of trade.”
FB/Twit erect NO “barriers” to entry, other than the fact that people voluntarily flock there. Any conservative wealthy person could create such a network, only none do.
A shift “might” be possible if a real alternative, such as Gab that fixed its problems and became user friendly, were to see President Trump abruptly leave Twit and join. Immediately about 50m followers would go there, and probably double as each of those undoubtedly has a few people who don’t follow Trump.
But legally, you’d find it difficult to justify the “barriers to entry” clause. Just because no consumers want to buy your product does not constitute a barrier to entry legally.
Um.....no....FB is NOT a private company!
And, they SELL your private information, unlike the Christian baker.....
They're playing both sides of the road....banning content, shadow banning, etc.
Their classification MUST be changed....so that they, too, (like newspapers, etc) can be subject to libel and slander lawsuits.
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