Why I’m Leaving America

Dollar Vigilante ^ | August 31, 2012 | redmond W

[Big Red Badger]

Mermaid Diaries,,,
Deep,
so deep.

[Manly Warrior]

Agreed, a man who has been seemingly well read, but likely never broke a sweat; the epitome of snowflakes- melting at the slightest hint of heat.

Seems he graduated from HS, and spent 3.5 years in college- the leftist ed system ruined him, thought without experience is a scary thing.

Gosh, I spent somewhere near 35 yrs going to school ( mil, university/professional and personal) after HS, still learning and seeking out knowledge, not simply information.

This boy still has baby soap in his ears....

[rockrr]

I don’t know what the future holds.

I do - for him at least. A huge disappointment is awaiting him...

[Degaston]

I’ve often thought about the pros-cons of becoming an expat. A few thoughts:

1. As long as any of us personally desire to maintain USA citizenship we will still be subject to taxes. Sure we can’t ever be forced to file any returns. But we’d most likely be better off filing our own returns than letting the IRS assess us taxes owed. Its also vitally important to report all income and take deductions honestly.

2. On taxes there are many deductions that expats can take if they plan wisely - per diem deductions, be physically in the USA less than 36 calendar days during any 365 day period - keep in mind that if you arrive one day at 11:50pm but turn around just 48 hrs 20 minutes later at 12:10am that this is 4 calendar days, credit for taxes paid to foreign governments (including VAT), etc. - but get advice from a tax professional.

3. Regardless of whether you are an expat or stay in the USA - a government can only collect taxes on income that people earn, assets they have accumulated within their reach, and spending. If you want to cut your tax footprint then the first thing to do is CUT BACK on what you spend in life. Do you really need a fancier car? bigger home? designer clothes/purses/jewels? Its sure a lot nicer to be around people that are down-to-earth than those who are trying to keep up with the Jones’s.

4. If the USA goes bust then its hard to imagine the world not suffering huge negative chaos in the aftermath. Things are so interconnected now globally. I think we’re best off trying to get the USA on a good track of fiscal responsibility and limited good government. I’m well-aware of the risks and dangers. But the alternatives are quite unpalatable.

[mountainlion]

My cousin left east of Ft. Collins because it was getting too crowded, in 1968!!!

[BlackAdderess]

It’s the end of the semester and it sounds like he’s in his senior year. I’m a junior and at this point, everyone is well and truly tired and looking forward to the end of the semester. He expressed a good deal of unhappiness about dealing with the economy but it’s a heck of a lot better than it was just two years ago, thanks to Trump. More than likely this is all anxiety about competing in the economy and making his way. If so, he’s lucky Trump is the POTUS. I’m out Spring of ‘20 and I’m hoping the Democrats don’t do too much damage by then.

[BlackAdderess]

Oh heck, I just noticed that this was written in 2012.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

This dude has never been married, that much is certain.

[Candor7]

The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

True if you read “Animal Farm”

But Mr. Jeeves, you alone can’t put millions of historians out of work or you would be at risk of your 1st illucidated category!

[vannrox]

There are pros and cons to being an expat. There is no question about that.

Contrary to what many people think it's not a comparison between fresh American apples, and ugly, rotten foreign apples.

It is a comparison between American apples and foreign bananas. The world is not a dark ugly fearful place out there. It really isn't.

For instance, I moved to (communist) China. I cannot vote. I cannot protest. These are losses of Freedom.

but...

I can smoke in a restaurant with my dog on the chair beside me. I can go in barefoot, without a tee-shirt, and buy any medicine I want without a prescription at amazingly low prices. These items are repatriation of freedoms now lost to Americans.

It's all about the trade-offs.

You know, life has ups and downs. A bad divorce that throws your entire life out of kilter, a serious run-in with the IRS, A boss-from-Hell, and neighbors from Hell can all contribute to a person saying "Fudge it!" and leaving.

We've all been there. If you haven't, you have been a truly blessed man.

This fellow had a lot to say. And, I am actually ashamed at the responses from FR. "Be a man! stay and fight!" Or, "America is the best. Everywhere else is crap". Or, "You'll see" said by someone who never actually lived outside the nation.

The United States has some SERIOUS PROBLEMS. It is only going to get better, and the people who are aware, and who HAVE THE MEANS are finding safe havens elsewhere.

Don't tell me that you are free when you have to pay taxes on "your" house.

Don't tell me that America is a representative constitutional republic after the passage of the 12th and 17th amendments.

Don't lecture me on the Freedoms that Americans have when you could lose your job for smoking in your office.

Don't lecture me about your freedom when you have to ask permission, and pay for a permit, to fish.

Don't tell me about your freedoms, when everyone from your tax accountant to your barber HAS to be "certified", and pay yearly fees (passed on to you, of course).

Anyways...

I hope he found his safe haven. I am sure it will not be what he expected. It will probably be better in some ways and worse in others. I can almost guarantee you that he will have a much younger and cuter wife, that's for certain.

America has DEVOLVED.

It is now a place that is designed to take money from Americans and give it to rich oligarchs. This system is only getting tighter and tighter. Soon a wall will be up, access to passports will be redistricted, and Americans will be disarmed.

Right before that happens, there will be bloodshed. It happens every time. Don't you ever think that somehow Americans will be spared this certainty. It will come quickly. It will not be televised. It will happen in groups and clusters, and the progressive communists will be driving tanks, and conservatives will have hunting rifles.

So, are you going to protect your family or what? Pretend that it won't happen.

I'd look for a safe place for my family to ride out the storm; a life-boat, if you may. May I suggest THESE LOCATIONS.

I hope that the guy who wrote this, found his space.

I also PRAY for America as it nears a very deep dark time, and I hope that LIBERTY will prevail. Because, from what I am looking at... Americans (even Freepers) haven't a clue as to what real freedom is.

[mostly_lies]

If we cannot agree on what individual rights are, then how the hell can you be advocating we entrust government with power to enforce them?