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How Star Trek Became A Tribal Battleground Of PC Art
The Federalist ^ | 25 May 2018 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 05/26/2018 11:00:40 AM PDT by Rummyfan

It has become commonplace to lament that we don’t have a common culture any more—a repertoire of art that we can all enjoy regardless of our political loyalties. Well, maybe it’s because we have a lot of people trying to mark off parts of the culture as their tribal territory, off-limits to partisan enemies.

I thought of this when someone sent me a link to a recent podcast for science-fiction fans, in which political commenter Ana Marie Cox puzzles over the fact that Ted Cruz is a big Star Trek fan. (To save you some trouble, it’s about 28 minutes in.) Why is this such a mystery? “The original Star Trek universe, for its time even, was pretty social justice warrior-y.”

Try not to spit out your coffee. To paraphrase Dr. Carol Marcus, Jim Kirk was many things, but he was never a social justice warrior.

Cox is partly just trying to flog her own science-fiction column, which features, from what I can tell here, ridiculous political over-analysis of pop-culture sci-fi. But this also reflects how PC didacticism is becoming the mainstream culture’s official theory of art, a topic I’ve been railing about a lot recently. Certainly, if you watch Star Trek and your main takeaway is that it’s a good advertisement for lefty politics—because, as the podcast host puts it, “there’s no money, and everybody’s super-liberal”—you’re really missing the point.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chatforum; hollywood; sjw; startrek; tvmovies
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To: plain talk
Yep. Star Trek was a fun show and did not shove politics down one's throat.

Not political?

You must be an younger generation because it was very political in it's day. From the short skirts to women's rights to interracial sex and free sex, virtually every episode was full of sixties politics. Spock= Dr Spock, anyone?
21 posted on 05/26/2018 1:00:11 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: Olog-hai

I’m on!! I saw every original ST episode and Spock NEVER got laid. In fact I recall him and Solo were very close...


22 posted on 05/26/2018 1:03:19 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Who the heck is she kidding? The women on board wore short skirts, Kirk apparently made it with a green alien woman

The Playboy philosophy, writ carne. Hugh Hefner would be proud. The only Sixties topic Roddenberry didn't put into his series was abortion.
23 posted on 05/26/2018 1:05:47 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: billyboy15
Are you certain?

I've always felt Saavik was likely a product of Spock and the Romulan Commander's "diplomatic relations" during The Enterprise Incident.

24 posted on 05/26/2018 1:08:10 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Rummyfan

In my ears 20s Star Trek was one of my favorite shows. As I came to learn what a miserable leftist Gene Roddenberry was it lost its appeal. I still watch it at times but it’s not the same!!!


25 posted on 05/26/2018 1:15:01 PM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

ears = early ....damn auto correct!!!


26 posted on 05/26/2018 1:16:47 PM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

I think the original Star Trek is fine, but in the course of time Roddenberry inserted more Socialism and Leftist propaganda into the mix. Star Trek the Next Generation is the culmination of a lot of that. I now find it unwatchable although I did watch it when it came out originally.

Even then you could see Leftist turn it had taken it’s promotion of Socialism and that people only worked for the good of mankind and the Federation. Not for any incentive or monetary gain. That aspect was totally absurd.


27 posted on 05/26/2018 1:22:09 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Kirk apparently made it with a green alien woman”

That was Pike, and he just barely held on - or they would have had him. It was really close.


28 posted on 05/26/2018 1:22:49 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: billyboy15

Spock got laid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fc0irneMHU


29 posted on 05/26/2018 1:28:24 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: billyboy15

On the same token, you could also say that Kirk “never got laid” because all you saw was the makeout scene. I named two specific episodes with implications for Spock’s sex life. Now “Amok Time”, where he’s going through the mating frenzy, all he did was fight.


30 posted on 05/26/2018 1:30:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Rummyfan
To paraphrase Dr. Carol Marcus, Jim Kirk was many things, but he was never a social justice warrior.

Kirk was a Kennedy-style liberal, a "Spacethefinalfrontiersman," going from planet to planet to spread or defend Western Democracy.

Neocons inherited than mantle.

So if Cruz is a neocon, he has every right to Captain Kirk.

Trying to fit Kirk (or Rod Serling) into today's politics isn't easy or particularly worthwhile.

Too much has changed in 50 years.

31 posted on 05/26/2018 1:47:47 PM PDT by x
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To: billyboy15

Spock had at least three women in his life, a close encounter is insinuated in each one:
1 The Enterprise Incident - The Romulan Commander
2 All Our Yesterdays - Zarabeth
3 This Side of Paradise - Leila


32 posted on 05/26/2018 1:59:58 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: Paperpusher

Those three women you named were beards to cover for Spock being a bit light in the loafers.

How could you not know Sock had his genitals removed?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTvK2fClGOeo&ved=0ahUKEwjvvbKhpKTbAhXB51MKHb26AygQwqsBCDYwAQ&usg=AOvVaw2h3LMJFHjWSvLCeHtuLSu6


33 posted on 05/26/2018 2:08:54 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

“Free-dom?” That is a worship-word. You will not speak it”


34 posted on 05/26/2018 2:18:55 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Free Dom? We say it is a right given us by God so maybe those Yang’s had something going there.


35 posted on 05/26/2018 2:25:31 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: RedMonqey

Huh? I grew up in the 1950s and watched Star Trek during the 1960s. The dress was pretty tame for the 24th century. :-) The show was not overly political and did not shove politics down your throat. It was a just a fun show to watch.

Of course you are free to boycott the show if it is so objectionable. The reruns are still out there.


36 posted on 05/26/2018 2:29:05 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Rummyfan

Loved the original series. Warts and all.

Even the animated series captured the spirit of the Original Series well. There was little, if anything PC about it. It might have made winking reference to some of Kirks exploits (the animated episode “Jihad,” for example). But it was amazing to see how “adult-situations” it could be with an episode like “Mudd’s Passion.”

The Next Generation felt…off. Dr. Crusher soon developed into a proto-SJW. Picard “surrendering” n the first season became a joke. And the entire crew acted as if they were under the watchful eye of some omniscient HR Director. “A Halloween party on politically-correct college campus is something I read after the series ended.

I saw maybe a half-dozen episodes of Deep Space 9. I;ve been told that that’s the series to watch, but the first year seemed less entertaining than Next Generation’s first year and I was going to hang around for more disappointment.

The movies are also spotty for me. Most are fair or worse. The Motion Picture and The Wrath of Khan are the only ones I care for. I can watch The Next Generation and often be entertained by it, but it’s almost for me to call it Star Trek. Especially knowing the direction it and, subsequently, the other shows have gone. Star Trek went gone on for a long time, but it ended for me with Spock’s death at the end of The Wrath of Khan.


37 posted on 05/26/2018 2:31:30 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Rummyfan

Episode: Who Mourns for Adonais?

“Mankind has no need for gods. We find the one quite adequate.”

- Kirk to Apollo, on how Humanity has changed since Apollo left Earth


38 posted on 05/26/2018 2:34:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: billyboy15

Just quoting from the episode.


39 posted on 05/26/2018 2:34:52 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Yes, I realize that.


40 posted on 05/26/2018 2:47:20 PM PDT by billyboy15
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