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Pentagon Wants Cloud Secure Enough to Hold Nuke Secrets
Nextgov ^ | May 14, 2018 | Frank Konkel

Posted on 05/15/2018 8:59:31 PM PDT by plain talk

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To: plain talk

Don’t do it! I guarantee that this cloud will be compromised, leaking our nuke secrets all over the place.

A more stupid place to hold such information I could not imagine, short of Hillary’s server.


21 posted on 05/15/2018 9:28:14 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: plain talk

The cloud is just Other People’s Servers. Yep, it’s secure. Haha ha ha ha


22 posted on 05/15/2018 9:39:30 PM PDT by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: Ancesthntr
#21: "…this cloud will be compromised, leaking our nuke secrets all over the place. A more stupid place to hold such information I could not imagine …"

And it won't even have to be "hacked". Chinese nationals with H-1B visas will be hired to implement it. Bet on it.
 

23 posted on 05/15/2018 9:39:57 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: plain talk

We are run by complete dumbasses who will eventually get us nuked.


24 posted on 05/15/2018 9:42:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: plain talk

the 9/10ths rule of possession applies to data also


25 posted on 05/15/2018 9:48:23 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: higgmeister

I used to work at mci during the mci mail days. I think it could be done, but there could be no connection to the outside world, ever, for nothing and anything. It’s just storage +servers and firewalls and a way to access it.


26 posted on 05/15/2018 9:54:55 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Tag, you're it.)
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To: plain talk
whenever I see news like this:
1) I am reminded of that old movie classic PENTAGON WARS and
2) It tells me in no uncertain way that some of the top brass has been bribed BIG TIME by Google or one of their affiliates.

Imho the big brass sees these opportunities to top off their retirement funds and to land cushy defense contractor jobs after they retire out of the military.

27 posted on 05/15/2018 9:55:28 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: Lazamataz

BAD BAD BAD ................. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE BANE OF “””NEED TO KNOW””” AND THE SECURITY OF CLASSIFIED CNWDI WITHIN THE DOE/NNSA AND THE DOD !!

WHY AM I YELLING .........

That data needs to stay air gap isolated from the entire intranet . DOOM on the SOB’s that allow this ....... DAMN !!!


28 posted on 05/15/2018 10:04:04 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

Well now you got that off your chest...feel better?


29 posted on 05/15/2018 10:06:04 PM PDT by caww
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Just despise the ignorance of those who fail to see the potential for disaster regarding the easy access to such information ......


30 posted on 05/15/2018 10:14:05 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: familyop

It would only work on a propriety system that is not connected to the world.


31 posted on 05/15/2018 10:14:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: prophetic

Most billionaires make their money through government contracts. There is no doubt that this is what it is.


32 posted on 05/15/2018 10:17:09 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Lazamataz

yep


33 posted on 05/15/2018 10:28:59 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: plain talk

Gawd, what a pack of fools.


34 posted on 05/15/2018 10:40:22 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: txhurl

Winchester disc packs most likely. Or maybe paper tape.


35 posted on 05/15/2018 10:43:35 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: CJ Wolf
I used to work at mci during the mci mail days. I think it could be done, but there could be no connection to the outside world, ever, for nothing and anything. It’s just storage +servers and firewalls and a way to access it.

Seeing as how the internet started from ARPANET part of the DoD. Then TCP/IP allowed it to be Networked so that the National Science Foundation was connected with universities and the National Laboratories, such as Lawrence Livermore, Oak Ridge, Lawrence Berkeley and Los Alamos.

Any so called secure cloud would have to have firewall connectivity to all of these locations and more. They would need fiber optic switching to every location and therefore would be impossible to keep secure.

36 posted on 05/15/2018 10:46:40 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: plain talk

If you have an unbreakable encryption method, you can put your top secret files anywhere and let anyone see them.

If you don’t, they should never touch the net.

IOW, there’s no need for a special secure site.


37 posted on 05/15/2018 11:25:55 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Jonty30

Thanks.

Any possible physical line connections or access points would allow taps. Any taps would allow signals on each line to be analyzed for patterns (or signal volume and other assessments for decryption attempts). All methods of physical connections would need to be made impossible.

The only way to satisfactorily secure such a network would be to keep all lines and nodes of it physically secured (sleeved) against drilling, cutting, burning, etc. (vault-like security around all lines). The whole net would need to be within one very secure building with very cleared and secured personnel.

There are always risks. In the past, we said that a computer buried in the ground and physically unconnected to anything else could still be cracked.


38 posted on 05/15/2018 11:26:33 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Jonty30

Also, there’s always a way to easily connect some kind of radio to a node in a closed network (intranet) within one closed building. After that, a signal can get out through a blocking grid in many probably unexpected ways (antennas, of course, closed windows, power lines, doors, vents, structural reinforcement with coil/capacitor, ad virtually infinitum).


39 posted on 05/15/2018 11:46:02 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Squantos

Even keeping it all in hard copy in a vault would be a greater security challenge now with the possible human body modifications. How small could a capable enough CMOS sensor be made now (for a camera concealed under the skin or other body part)?


40 posted on 05/16/2018 12:02:04 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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