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New ideas to make Democrats the party of the future
The Hill ^ | 04/22/18 | Winston Fisher and Jim Kessler

Posted on 04/22/2018 9:37:27 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

In the latest “believe it or not” moment, farmers are experimenting with collars for cows equipped with GPS and electronic signaling that would eliminate the need for fencing and herding. American farmers spent $300 million last year on fencing. To policymakers concerned about the creation of jobs, did anyone see farm fencing falling to the veracious appetite of disruption?

The Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, is unabashedly lurching backwards. The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s. The steel tariffs are from the Smoot-Hawley 1930s. Democrats are, understandably, mostly in opposition mode. But the world is relentlessly moving forward.

This gives Democrats a once-in-a-generation opportunity to seize the moment and become the party that prepares Americans to earn a good life in an economic future that is equal parts exciting and terrifying. How people fare will largely depend on the choices of policymakers.

*List of 'innovative' ideas follows at link*

The key to these initiatives, and many others, is that this era demands bold and modern thinking — tinkering with old, antiquated programs simply won’t cut it anymore. The world is moving forward; our charge is to make sure everyone has a place in it.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aluminum; democrats; election; incometaxes; jimkessler; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; partyoflosers; presstitutes; steel; tariffs; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; winstonfisher
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How long before Democrats want to fit us with GPS collars to corral us without the need for fencing and herding?

Winston Fisher is a partner at Fisher Brothers and Co-Chair of the NYC Regional Economic Development Council and Jim Kessler is senior vice president and a co-founder of Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.

A New Generation of Ideas: A Social Contract for the Digital Age

1 posted on 04/22/2018 9:37:27 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

“Centrist Democrat” is a contradiction in terms.


2 posted on 04/22/2018 9:41:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: yesthatjallen

” The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s. “

Which was a prosperous time, a time of recovery from the malaise of the Carter years.

I welcome “supply side” economics, it’s best for the people, not government.

Dems are big on making the government all-powerful, as most socialists/communists do.


3 posted on 04/22/2018 9:43:51 AM PDT by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: yesthatjallen

They have no ideas that aren’t based on lies and deception and manipulation and control. They can’t survive without lying, deceiving, manipulating and control because their agenda would be rejected otherwise.


4 posted on 04/22/2018 9:48:01 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: yesthatjallen
A recently-published Al Gore statement went like this: "I would bet on American democracy surviving this bleak period, for sure, but the challenge is stiffer than any we've faced in my lifetime," Gore said.

If America's Constitution had structured a "democracy," then all the talk about whether it would "survive" would make sense, historically speaking.

The historical fact is, however: America's Constitution for its form of self-government did not structure a "democracy," which makes Gore's observation, as well as the current Democrat Party talk quoted herein, irrelevant.

The Founders and Framers of America's Constitutional government made their intentions and their Constitutional structuring clear at the time, and all the later talk of "democracy" reflects the Liberal/Progressive ideology--not the Framers' philosophy of individual liberty and limited government power, with "the People" exerting their will through their representatives in government.

To go from what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776--generations who were willing to sacrifice everything for the cause of liberty in America and, as a "beacon of liberty" throughout the world--to what only can be described as the "foolishness" discussed in the subject article of this thread, should alarm all who care about the prospects of freedom for our posterity!

“Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.” - John Adams

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” - – John Adams, letter to John Taylor, 1814

The second Adams quotation, above, reminds us, too, that, contrary to Progressive claims, the Founders and Framers of America's Constitution never formed a "democracy," as is explained thoroughly by John Quincy Adams in his "Jubilee" Address* in NYC at the invitation of the New York Historical Society in 1839, which concludes with the following statement:
" Fellow-citizens, the ark of your covenant is the Declaration of independence. Your Mount Ebal, is the confederacy of separate state sovereignties, and your Mount Gerizim is the Constitution of the United States. In that scene of tremendous and awful solemnity, narrated in the Holy Scriptures, there is not a curse pronounced against the people, upon Mount Ebal, not a blessing promised them upon Mount Gerizim, which your posterity may not suffer or enjoy, from your and their adherence to, or departure from, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, practically interwoven in the Constitution of the United States. Lay up these principles, then, in your hearts, and in your souls – bind them for signs upon your hands, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes – teach them to your children, speaking of them when sitting in your houses, when walking by the way, when lying down and when rising up – write them upon the doorplates of your houses, and upon your gates – cling to them as to the issues of life – adhere to them as to the cords of your eternal salvation. So may your children’s children at the next return of this day of jubilee, after a full century of experience under your national Constitution, celebrate it again in the full enjoyment of all the blessings recognized by you in the commemoration of this day, and of all the blessings promised to the children of Israel upon Mount Gerizim, as the reward of obedience to the law of God."

Please read entire speech here.

*THE JUBILEE OF THE CONSTITUTION: A Discourse Delivered at the Request of the New York Historical Society, in the City of New York, on Tuesday, the 30th of April, 1839; Being the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Inauguration of George Washington as President of the United States, on Thursday, the 30th of April, 1789."

5 posted on 04/22/2018 9:52:34 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: yesthatjallen

I did a quick glance at the 12 ideas .

It would require the Dems to REVERSE COURSE for many of them. They are incapable of doing that.

For example, the first item calls for easier loans to small businesses, which flies in the face of all the rules the Dems implemented during the Obama years which has made it impossible for banks to loan money to small businesses.

The last idea is straight out of the 60’s and 70’s, minimum wages.

They have nothing, and these 12 are further confirmation of that.

They would be better to stick with gun control, Global Warming, and their holy sacrament, abortion.


6 posted on 04/22/2018 10:06:57 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Maybe I’m missing something, but wouldn’t any savings on fencing be wiped out by the manhours it would take to retrieve animals who wander onto others’ properties?


7 posted on 04/22/2018 10:20:56 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: Balding_Eagle

They would be better to stick with gun control, Global Warming, and their holy sacrament, abortion.

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Don’t worry about them abandoning those things.


8 posted on 04/22/2018 10:22:14 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: yesthatjallen
"The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s. "

The author says that like it's a bad thing.

He likely has no idea that Reaganomics lifted the nation out of the Carter 'malaise', and sparked an economic boom that lasted all the way to the end of the Clinton years.

9 posted on 04/22/2018 10:26:35 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Brilliant

People are still fed up with big government and large pockets of corruption, excessive immigration, diversity/morality insanity, excessive regulations on our industry. More people are approving of Trump.

The Democratic party’s will be sidelined for awhile but not forever.


10 posted on 04/22/2018 10:27:50 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Kipp
I'm wondering if they're shock collars that are used on dogs to create an invisible fence.

On people they would be akin to something in the short story, 'Harrison Bergeron.

In the year 2081, the 211th, 212th, and 213th amendments to the Constitution dictate that all Americans are fully equal and not allowed to be smarter, better-looking, or more physically able than anyone else. The Handicapper General's agents enforce the equality laws, forcing citizens to wear "handicaps": masks for those who are too beautiful, loud radios that disrupt thoughts inside the ears of intelligent people, and heavy weights for the strong or athletic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

11 posted on 04/22/2018 10:29:46 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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I read the list of their 10 recommendations - all government assisted ‘help’ for their victim groups and or ‘committees’ to put the thumb of liberalism on all the ‘scales’ of the country.

Benefits for poor liberals - benefits for academic liberal elites. Nothing for the country beyond silly job training. It's socialism lite with very little thought put into it beyond how to disguise socialism and make it palatable...

“Students” of our failed college system will buy this crap because they've never been in the work force. People who live on government hand outs will buy into it for the same reason... And so called ‘journalists’ who think their job is to ‘save the world’ rather than report the news might fall for it... everyone else will run away ...

12 posted on 04/22/2018 10:52:36 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "Universities are becoming laughing stocks of intolerance." - Harvard professor Steven Pinker)
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To: yesthatjallen

Wonderful. Just how in the world are they going to keep cattle from wandering, GPS or not?


13 posted on 04/22/2018 10:56:26 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: yesthatjallen
In the latest “believe it or not” moment, farmers are experimenting with collars for cows equipped with GPS and electronic signaling that would eliminate the need for fencing and herding.

Hey Joe, the cows are on the interstate again and over in Farmer Jone's chicken coops... ain't these GPS collars great - - no need for fences ... Them damn liberals sure don't 'get' why we put fences up... do they?

14 posted on 04/22/2018 10:57:01 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "Universities are becoming laughing stocks of intolerance." - Harvard professor Steven Pinker)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Without much of an exception, all 12 “ideas” demand government (taxpayer) funding of government run programs or government run programs that are funded by raising taxes on businesses, which of course is passed throught to the general population in the form of higher prices.

In every instance all “funds” are held by and controlled by federal government bureaucracy.

No potential for abuse based on political affiliation there, right?

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15 posted on 04/22/2018 11:03:26 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: yesthatjallen

I’m just an Old Guy who still appreciates the miracle of being able to simply turn a Faucet to get clean water.

I am amazed at what would happen if things like Cell Phones just stopped working. The panic that ensues would be unreal.

Those the most dependent on Technology would be the first ones who would fall apart when things go south.

Not surprisingly, they seem to be the same people trying to ban Firearms. Their complete trust in Government largess will be their downfall.


16 posted on 04/22/2018 11:07:11 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, I wonder if the farmers and the authors of this article have calculated the costs of the cattle wandering onto the corn, bean, wheat, or other fields of their neighbors. There would also be the costs of retrieving the cattle from the roads and the costs associated with paying the insurance companies for the damages done by said cattle.

Personally, I think fences are a good idea because I have been in a less developed country where there are few fences and have seen what happens when a vehicle impacts a cow. Nasty.


17 posted on 04/22/2018 12:08:47 PM PDT by Ann de IL
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To: Kickass Conservative
I’m just an Old Guy who still appreciates the miracle of being able to simply turn a Faucet to get clean water.

We have a well at our new house. Last place we lived, I had to haul water.

Spend a couple of winters hauling water and you develop a deep appreciation for it.

I still refrain from long showers unless I need it for sore muscles because I can't stand the thought of wasting so much water.
18 posted on 04/22/2018 12:08:58 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: chrisser

I wonder, does Starbucks use regular Tap Water to make their Coffee?

At those prices, I would think they used Fiji Bottled Water.


19 posted on 04/22/2018 12:15:17 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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How people fare will largely depend on the choices of policymakers.

That’s the forward thinking that gave us the workers paradise of Venezuela! Democrats using failed 19th century philosophy....today!!!

20 posted on 04/22/2018 2:46:42 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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