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How long before Democrats want to fit us with GPS collars to corral us without the need for fencing and herding?

Winston Fisher is a partner at Fisher Brothers and Co-Chair of the NYC Regional Economic Development Council and Jim Kessler is senior vice president and a co-founder of Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.

A New Generation of Ideas: A Social Contract for the Digital Age

1 posted on 04/22/2018 9:37:27 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

“Centrist Democrat” is a contradiction in terms.


2 posted on 04/22/2018 9:41:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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” The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s. “

Which was a prosperous time, a time of recovery from the malaise of the Carter years.

I welcome “supply side” economics, it’s best for the people, not government.

Dems are big on making the government all-powerful, as most socialists/communists do.


3 posted on 04/22/2018 9:43:51 AM PDT by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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They have no ideas that aren’t based on lies and deception and manipulation and control. They can’t survive without lying, deceiving, manipulating and control because their agenda would be rejected otherwise.


4 posted on 04/22/2018 9:48:01 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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A recently-published Al Gore statement went like this: "I would bet on American democracy surviving this bleak period, for sure, but the challenge is stiffer than any we've faced in my lifetime," Gore said.

If America's Constitution had structured a "democracy," then all the talk about whether it would "survive" would make sense, historically speaking.

The historical fact is, however: America's Constitution for its form of self-government did not structure a "democracy," which makes Gore's observation, as well as the current Democrat Party talk quoted herein, irrelevant.

The Founders and Framers of America's Constitutional government made their intentions and their Constitutional structuring clear at the time, and all the later talk of "democracy" reflects the Liberal/Progressive ideology--not the Framers' philosophy of individual liberty and limited government power, with "the People" exerting their will through their representatives in government.

To go from what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776--generations who were willing to sacrifice everything for the cause of liberty in America and, as a "beacon of liberty" throughout the world--to what only can be described as the "foolishness" discussed in the subject article of this thread, should alarm all who care about the prospects of freedom for our posterity!

“Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.” - John Adams

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” - – John Adams, letter to John Taylor, 1814

The second Adams quotation, above, reminds us, too, that, contrary to Progressive claims, the Founders and Framers of America's Constitution never formed a "democracy," as is explained thoroughly by John Quincy Adams in his "Jubilee" Address* in NYC at the invitation of the New York Historical Society in 1839, which concludes with the following statement:
" Fellow-citizens, the ark of your covenant is the Declaration of independence. Your Mount Ebal, is the confederacy of separate state sovereignties, and your Mount Gerizim is the Constitution of the United States. In that scene of tremendous and awful solemnity, narrated in the Holy Scriptures, there is not a curse pronounced against the people, upon Mount Ebal, not a blessing promised them upon Mount Gerizim, which your posterity may not suffer or enjoy, from your and their adherence to, or departure from, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, practically interwoven in the Constitution of the United States. Lay up these principles, then, in your hearts, and in your souls – bind them for signs upon your hands, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes – teach them to your children, speaking of them when sitting in your houses, when walking by the way, when lying down and when rising up – write them upon the doorplates of your houses, and upon your gates – cling to them as to the issues of life – adhere to them as to the cords of your eternal salvation. So may your children’s children at the next return of this day of jubilee, after a full century of experience under your national Constitution, celebrate it again in the full enjoyment of all the blessings recognized by you in the commemoration of this day, and of all the blessings promised to the children of Israel upon Mount Gerizim, as the reward of obedience to the law of God."

Please read entire speech here.

*THE JUBILEE OF THE CONSTITUTION: A Discourse Delivered at the Request of the New York Historical Society, in the City of New York, on Tuesday, the 30th of April, 1839; Being the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Inauguration of George Washington as President of the United States, on Thursday, the 30th of April, 1789."

5 posted on 04/22/2018 9:52:34 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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I did a quick glance at the 12 ideas .

It would require the Dems to REVERSE COURSE for many of them. They are incapable of doing that.

For example, the first item calls for easier loans to small businesses, which flies in the face of all the rules the Dems implemented during the Obama years which has made it impossible for banks to loan money to small businesses.

The last idea is straight out of the 60’s and 70’s, minimum wages.

They have nothing, and these 12 are further confirmation of that.

They would be better to stick with gun control, Global Warming, and their holy sacrament, abortion.


6 posted on 04/22/2018 10:06:57 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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"The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s. "

The author says that like it's a bad thing.

He likely has no idea that Reaganomics lifted the nation out of the Carter 'malaise', and sparked an economic boom that lasted all the way to the end of the Clinton years.

9 posted on 04/22/2018 10:26:35 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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I read the list of their 10 recommendations - all government assisted ‘help’ for their victim groups and or ‘committees’ to put the thumb of liberalism on all the ‘scales’ of the country.

Benefits for poor liberals - benefits for academic liberal elites. Nothing for the country beyond silly job training. It's socialism lite with very little thought put into it beyond how to disguise socialism and make it palatable...

“Students” of our failed college system will buy this crap because they've never been in the work force. People who live on government hand outs will buy into it for the same reason... And so called ‘journalists’ who think their job is to ‘save the world’ rather than report the news might fall for it... everyone else will run away ...

12 posted on 04/22/2018 10:52:36 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "Universities are becoming laughing stocks of intolerance." - Harvard professor Steven Pinker)
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Wonderful. Just how in the world are they going to keep cattle from wandering, GPS or not?


13 posted on 04/22/2018 10:56:26 AM PDT by mazda77
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In the latest “believe it or not” moment, farmers are experimenting with collars for cows equipped with GPS and electronic signaling that would eliminate the need for fencing and herding.

Hey Joe, the cows are on the interstate again and over in Farmer Jone's chicken coops... ain't these GPS collars great - - no need for fences ... Them damn liberals sure don't 'get' why we put fences up... do they?

14 posted on 04/22/2018 10:57:01 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "Universities are becoming laughing stocks of intolerance." - Harvard professor Steven Pinker)
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I’m just an Old Guy who still appreciates the miracle of being able to simply turn a Faucet to get clean water.

I am amazed at what would happen if things like Cell Phones just stopped working. The panic that ensues would be unreal.

Those the most dependent on Technology would be the first ones who would fall apart when things go south.

Not surprisingly, they seem to be the same people trying to ban Firearms. Their complete trust in Government largess will be their downfall.


16 posted on 04/22/2018 11:07:11 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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Well, I wonder if the farmers and the authors of this article have calculated the costs of the cattle wandering onto the corn, bean, wheat, or other fields of their neighbors. There would also be the costs of retrieving the cattle from the roads and the costs associated with paying the insurance companies for the damages done by said cattle.

Personally, I think fences are a good idea because I have been in a less developed country where there are few fences and have seen what happens when a vehicle impacts a cow. Nasty.


17 posted on 04/22/2018 12:08:47 PM PDT by Ann de IL
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How people fare will largely depend on the choices of policymakers.

That’s the forward thinking that gave us the workers paradise of Venezuela! Democrats using failed 19th century philosophy....today!!!

20 posted on 04/22/2018 2:46:42 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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“The tax bill was straight out of the supply side 1980s.”

As opposed to the Democrats tax plan, which is combination of 1960s Keynesism and 1920s Marxist-Leninism.


21 posted on 04/22/2018 4:46:54 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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Like slavery reparations and gender fluidity?


22 posted on 04/22/2018 5:47:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The “Third Way” is Fascism.

They can call it whatever they want...

But it IS Fascism.


23 posted on 04/23/2018 2:54:38 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (I am Henry Bowman. You should be, too.)
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