Posted on 03/19/2018 9:46:29 AM PDT by MNDude
First, the question: If Jeff Sessions has appointed a prosecutor to work with Inspector General Horowitz, why do congressional reps keep asking for a second special counsel?
The answer is a lot simpler than we might think: They don’t know.
The legislative branch of the government doesn’t know what the criminal investigations are of the executive branch of government; AND AG Jeff Sessions has repeatedly said his intention is to restore the proper, appropriate and professional standards of the U.S. Department of Justice. (ie. no talking about criminal investigations)
Within this specific investigation there is a triple role. ¹A DOJ Inspector General conducting an internal investigation; ² Appropriate congressional oversight; and ³ the collection of evidence that might also be used in criminal indictments.
Within the IG collection of evidence there are two competing issues: #1) Evidence of misconduct and political bias (shared openly with congress and oversight); and #2) evidence of illegal activity (retained from congress to preserve integrity of evidence for later used in criminal proceedings); this is where the “outside DC prosecutor” comes in.
I don't know if you have noticed or not, but our illustrious "justice system" over which you seem so wet has not worked "under the Constitution" for years.
Here's a nickel. Go buy a clue.
“I don’t know if you have noticed or not, but our illustrious “justice system” over which you seem so wet has not worked “under the Constitution” for years. Here’s a nickel. Go buy a clue.”
What do you suggest as an alternative to utilizing the justice system as the Constitution authorizes? Assassins? Summary executions? Tarring and feathering? The Trump administration’s approach here is the correct one, even if some of their critics are not clever enough to appreciate it.
Oh, I don’t know. I read the whole thing, and didn’t mind the absence of a paragraph break. But then, like the author, I was interested in the substance of the article.
I read that last night, and just now again. I don’t see where Mark Bradman actually provides any evidence that this external prosecuter guy did anything leading to McCabes firing. Maybe I missed it?
Could someone point out where that is, in the piece?
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“If Jeff Sessions has appointed a prosecutor,,,, why do congressional reps keep asking for a second special counsel? “
Because, unlike you koolaid drinkers at CTH, they don’t trust that deep-state compromised rat bastard Jeff Magoo///
Exactly.
Also who, besides sundance, is saying that sessions has appointed another prosecutor? I heard sessions say he has appointed a former DOJ official to investigate possible FISA abuse.
To believe this CTH stuff you have to believe that sessions has appointed in secret, a prosecutor to run a star chamber somewhere and nobody knows anything about it. And amazingly no grand jury leaks and none of the thousands of 0bama holdovers in sessions DOJ know anything about it either (cause if they did they would leak it too.)
The bottom line though, is that even if the “secret prosecutor” theory was true, congress doesn’t trust the DOJ to investigate itself.
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Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from Congress. Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress. Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information. That claim is not the correct framework/context.
Congress as a whole (reps, staff, and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages. However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why? Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, there’s a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime.
Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and you’ll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ. In this example, the “prosecutor”, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General.
Lastly, where all this appears to be going. It is not likely there will be a ‘second special counsel’ per se’. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. It’s more than likely there’s already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.
You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental.
The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved. Add into this likelihood the complicit ideological media who will go absolutely bananas about any single member of their team being indicted; and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well… you see the picture. The left only know one narrative: “Jeff Sessions is doing Trump’s evil bidding.” That’s it. That’s the drumbeat. 24/7/365 That’s the narrative pushed over and over. Look at their reaction to Andrew McCabe’s simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?…
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“”The antisessions groupthink is strong in this post””
As it is whenever Sessions’ name is brought up. Getting really tiresome. I call them lemmings but “groupthink” does the trick also.
“And amazingly no grand jury leaks and none of the thousands of 0bama holdovers in sessions DOJ know anything about it either (cause if they did they would leak it too.)”
It strains credulity, doesn’t it? If Magoo was actually going after the corrupt state players, you know they would leak it so that their propagandists in the fakestream media could scream bloody murder and come to their defense.
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
There's my answer. We start over. It is not only our right but our duty.
So you’re advocating a revolution to overthrow Trump’s government and tear up our beloved Constitution? Sounds like treason to me.
I still believe Trump’s strategy is the correct one: methodically and surgically excise the deep-state rot from all branches of our government; expose them to the public; prosecute and punish those who’ve committed crimes; then go about the massive task of restoring our Constitution to its intended preeminence.
This will take time and much is happening in the shadows up to this point. More will be seen publically when the time is right. In spite of the impatience of many good conservatives, Sessions is an integral part of this plan.
Trust the Plan.
Well, if Congress didn’t know before, it does now.
Wonder if any members of the House and/or Senate are targets....
And if so, could that explain why McCain’s hiding out in AZ? He’s dodging subpoenae...
No, that's not what I am advocating at all. What I'm advocating is more along the lines of vigilantism. That is to say, if our leaders refuse to do the job of dealing with traitors, we do it ourselves.
I voted for President Trump. I do trust him. He has presided over the undoing of virtually all of the Kenyan bastard's destructive policies.
But meanwhile, over at the FBI, NSA, CIA, and DOJ, people who have been hired specifically for the purpose of intimidating American citizens continue to walk around like OJ Simpson, having gotten away with murder and thinking that there is nothing we can do about it.
And when he is not out making the world safe by busting a marijuana homegrow, Little Jeffey is giving his verbal support to U.S. attorneys who were caught withholding exculpatory evidence in order to nail some men who dared make a stand against a tyrannical government.
So you tell me: When the government does not follow the Constitution, are we as Americans morally obligated to obey our government, or are we obligated to put them back in their places where they belong?
Sessions kinda blew this. Firing McCabe just gives the left all of this narrative to run with. Sessions should have indicted him. Taking his pension is kind of a stunt. Indicting and prosecuting him for perjury would be the real deal.
I understand your frustration; I feel it myself. I only caution that the deep-state took decades to become as powerful and destructive as it is today. It won’t be dismantled overnight, especially where criminal investigations and prosecutions are concerned. These take time.
I think we owe Trump our support and his team the benefit-of-the-doubt for now. Wait for the IG report and the indictments that I am sure will follow. There are also many other ongoing investigations with respect to the corrupt Obama/Clinton regime (in Little Rock, for example).
The dismantling and destruction of the deep-state will take years and the vigilance and support of patriots. Trust the plan.
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