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Broward Co. sheriff: Armed officer at school never went into building during shooting
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Posted on 02/22/2018 2:47:39 PM PST by ameribbean expat

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To: clintonh8r; ETCS
Unfortunately this takes a lot of the steam out of the argument for armed security.

Unfortunately, this IS the kind of “government security” the liberals crave. Their government, their government (unions) employees and dues, their government pensions, and ... like at Columbine, the government takes over, but takes no responsibility for their errors. Like forcing the kids who are holding a tourniquet tight to “evacuate” ... thus letting the shot teacher bleed out on the floor. But the police telling them to leave was “just following the orders to evacuate” Not thinking - an action the liberals CANNOT tolerate.

The liberal-socialists want ALL GUNS outlawed. This is just a step. And - when citizens cannot have guns, the liberal socialist communist government will have this guy with the gun. Outside the showers. Outside the railroad car.

81 posted on 02/22/2018 4:03:12 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Why? Because he expected one of his officers to actually do his job?


82 posted on 02/22/2018 4:03:44 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BuffaloJack

He either had a car or a golf cart.

He wouldn’t be on foot

My guess he was cowering close hy


83 posted on 02/22/2018 4:05:06 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ciexyz

Sounds like a real prison.

Not directing this at you, but it seems that there is little discussion yet about how the school and legal system responded or did not respond prior to and during the incident. Were their hands tied by some law or regulation, or incompetence, or some other factors? Reports list how many times the perp was in trouble with school or the law, yet nothing was attempted to intervene for the potential safety of others or his own. I believe cultural factors also need to be discussed including the pervasiveness of violent movies and video games to our youth. After all, if BJ Clinton went after a “cartoon character” Joe Camel as a reality in inducing young people to smoke, why would not desensitizing young people through virtual reality and entertainment not do the same?


84 posted on 02/22/2018 4:06:22 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Sacajaweau

> Squared off, the property is 1400’ by 1400’. That’s hardly huge. It’s the size of my apartment complex.....And I can see 1400 feet down the road from my unit.

1400’x1400’ = 1.96 million sq.ft. = 45 acres.
They said it was 45 acres. They were right.


85 posted on 02/22/2018 4:07:37 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code amd only practiced by warriors.)
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To: ameribbean expat
"Well, well, well."

Imagine a world where, "Black Lives Matter" and "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry Like Bacon!" and you are a cop, in liberal Broward Co. near retirement.

86 posted on 02/22/2018 4:10:54 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: whistleduck

‘The kid’ is in his mid 50’s.


87 posted on 02/22/2018 4:11:09 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: ameribbean expat

This is more wrong from the national media: They are burying the lede: He is RETIRING with a taxpayer funded lifetime pension. For a bald faced act of COWARDICE. And the national media isn’t mentioning it. This should be THE LEDE!!!


88 posted on 02/22/2018 4:11:47 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: EDINVA
This could end the argument in favor of armed guards in the schools. They would argue that the guard could absent him/herself in a time of crisis.

The coach didn't. But he wasn't "allowed" to be armed, so all he could do was be a human shield.

89 posted on 02/22/2018 4:20:26 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: clintonh8r
Unfortunately this takes a lot of the steam out of the argument for armed security.

It takes the steam out of relying totally on the police to protect you.

90 posted on 02/22/2018 4:28:30 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Ciexyz

“Really, I think the only thing that will protect our kids is if we engage in a massive rebuilding campaign where our school buildings have to be enclosed in ONE BUILDING with secure front entrance and guarded safety exits.”

So schools can just repurpose the architectural plans used in any big city county jail, big concrete boxes with 4 inch slit windows, nice.


91 posted on 02/22/2018 4:32:23 PM PST by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: ameribbean expat

ping


92 posted on 02/22/2018 4:48:11 PM PST by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: BuffaloJack

Three quarters is parking and athletic fields


93 posted on 02/22/2018 4:51:33 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Rusty0604

“I guess this guy wasn’t ex military or LEO?”

He was LEO. Deputy Sheriff, I think.


94 posted on 02/22/2018 4:54:44 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I fault him.....the guy shot up the place for over an hour....The actual buildings are maybe a few acres ....the rest is campus fields and parking and crap....plus sheriff said the SRO took shelter more or less

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95 posted on 02/22/2018 4:56:08 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: ameribbean expat

Puts new teeth into the saying, “When seconds count, police are only minutes away” — six minutes, to be exact.


96 posted on 02/22/2018 4:56:10 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

They were on site at Columbine quickly but sat on their hands waiting on swat or whatever

Cops today are often jacked cowards

Far different than my youth


97 posted on 02/22/2018 4:57:23 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“Can’t be sued for not acting on this.”

Reminds me of the song: “Nice work if you can get it it.” A cop who doesn’t have to protect citizens. Sheesh.


98 posted on 02/22/2018 4:58:08 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: freedumb2003

You need to read more on it dear


99 posted on 02/22/2018 4:58:44 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Sacajaweau

He patrolled in an ez go

The buildings are only a few acres themselves

Most Is parking and athletic fields and woods


100 posted on 02/22/2018 5:01:43 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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