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Trump endorses guns for teachers to stop shootings
BBC ^ | Feb. 21, 2018 | BBC

Posted on 02/21/2018 7:15:27 PM PST by Innovative

US President Donald Trump has said arming teachers could prevent school shootings like that which left 17 people dead last week in Florida.

A staff member with a gun could end an attack "very quickly", he said.

Mr Trump floated the proposal as emotional survivors of the 14 February massacre implored him to make sure it never happens again.

The Republican president also backed calls for improved background checks on gun buyers.

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ca; california; guns; nra; secondamendment; shootings; trump; whittier
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To: Innovative

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/16/classroom-firepower-ohio-teachers-increasingly-train-carry-guns.html

Classroom firepower: Ohio teachers increasingly pack heat on job


101 posted on 02/22/2018 6:41:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012 (I)
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To: Innovative

In the meantime, here is what Trump REALLY said (finally, someone with half a brain and common sense)...

“I never said ‘give teachers guns’ like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of immediately fire back if a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions. Highly trained teachers would also serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this. Far more assets at much less cost than guards. A ‘gun free’ school is a magnet for bad people. ATTACKS WOULD END!

“History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average, 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!

“If a potential ‘sicko shooter’ knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there...problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work!

“I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!

“What many people don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, is that Wayne, Chris and the folks who work so hard at the @NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


102 posted on 02/22/2018 6:46:49 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: lodi90

>>We have sheriff deputy out stations in many bank branches in my part of Florida. Move the deputies to schools. Problem solved.

We have schools on every corner in Florida, but I agree that this is a start to a solution.


103 posted on 02/22/2018 6:49:41 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

IF there is no metal detector, they should still carry. In Oregon, teachers/admins can


104 posted on 02/22/2018 6:50:30 AM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: Bryanw92

“I believe in the Second Amendment and not the “only professionals can handle a gun properly” nonsense.”

Liberal teachers are NOT ones to trust with guns. They are overly emotional and irrational. I wouldn’t want my grandchild in a class with an armed feminazi.

I’ve taught with many of them (briefly since the liberal agenda in today’s schools wasn’t something I chose to pass on) - these are people that cannot handle life, majored in something easy, got the only job they could with their limited intelligence and abilities. Yet they think they are doing a great job and don’t understand how they are just useful tools for the Alinsky crowd.

No, I wouldn’t want them armed.


105 posted on 02/22/2018 6:58:06 AM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

“I’ve an even better solution to the whole gun crisis . . . let’s get America back to the God of the Bible like it was back in the 1940’s and 50’s “

And along with that will be intact families where kids don’t come home to an empty house.

Many of these shootings are kids that have no guidance at home and are bullied at school.


106 posted on 02/22/2018 6:59:46 AM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: Innovative

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

And bad guys will ALWAYS have guns, laws or no laws.


107 posted on 02/22/2018 7:04:17 AM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: Spktyr

https://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/pearlhigh.asp

Here’s the spin- the vice principal did not actually stop the attack. To be fair Snopes says that if an attack is stopped before anyone is killed it may not get attention.


108 posted on 02/22/2018 7:06:53 AM PST by DBrow
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To: goldstategop; All

I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/966662241977360384


109 posted on 02/22/2018 7:06:54 AM PST by corlorde
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To: Innovative

I would too, if schools were still places of education and not socialists indoctrination camps.


110 posted on 02/22/2018 7:16:43 AM PST by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Innovative

BOOM!!!

Love it!!!

Go President Trump!!!


111 posted on 02/22/2018 7:17:05 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

“Go President Trump!!!”

What about this part?

“I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks”


112 posted on 02/22/2018 7:19:40 AM PST by corlorde
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To: Innovative; All

A well armed society is a polite society.

Where do you think the American people got manners from?

If something was misunderstood or considered disrespectful in the past, then that could end up getting someone killed.

I bet if society was like that today, then we would not hear a lot of the mouth from these punks because they would have been dumped a long time ago.


113 posted on 02/22/2018 7:21:39 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: chris37

Imo, the armed faculty and staff is winning the argument. I think the feds can fund the training. I think that those who volunteer to serve and go through traing should be paid more and the feds can pay that. Schools dont have an axtra 100k for paid security officers.but if they have paid security the teacher /coaches can supplement. This is the “ something “ we need to do!! It’s who we are!!


114 posted on 02/22/2018 7:26:35 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJTwe hav)
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To: CottonBall

“No, I wouldn’t want them armed.”

They feel the same about you. And yet, you and they are people covered by “The right of the people to keep and bear arms”.


115 posted on 02/22/2018 7:40:16 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Bryanw92

We have schools on every corner in Florida, but I agree that this is a start to a solution.


Park a police car in front of every school and the nutballs will never know which school actually has a deputy present.


116 posted on 02/22/2018 7:47:43 AM PST by lodi90
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To: CottonBall
No, I wouldn’t want them armed.

Those are typically the ones who wouldn't even dare to touch one let alone carry. It shouldn't be mandatory anyway, just the teachers willing to go thru the mandatory training.

As a side note, they should also be trained in tactical situations also rather than the regular CPL class....

117 posted on 02/22/2018 8:43:29 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: CottonBall

>>Liberal teachers are NOT ones to trust with guns.

I agree. I’m not sure why most FReepers seem to think that this has to be an all or nothing deal. We used to be pro-Second Amendment here. If there are 6 adults in a school (teacher, admin, or staff) who are willing to step up, shouldn’t we support that? Why do we have to go to the worst-case hysterical Progressive Drama teacher to say that arming the adults in a school is bad?

If we go to worst-case, remember that many recently discharged vets have a PTSD diagnosis too, so we can’t use vets either. I’m willing to look at individuals for such an important role.


118 posted on 02/22/2018 8:46:58 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: CottonBall

The left’s definition of bullying . . . A Christian student that carries his Bible and uses it to tell another student about Jesus. As soon as he tells them that they are a lost student . . . bullying!

It’s okay to call a Christian an infidel though . . . Whites and Christians normally can not be bullied . . . only bullies.


119 posted on 02/22/2018 8:57:21 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: raiderboy

I’m for it. Won’t catch me arguing against it. And it’s definitely who we are.


120 posted on 02/22/2018 9:04:46 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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