Posted on 02/15/2018 10:00:03 PM PST by Texas Fossil
Moments ago FISA Court Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer responded to the requests from the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes and House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte. (full pdf’s below – #1 and #2)
There are nuances in each response specific to the statutory roles of each Chairman and the specific requests made by each committee. Reflected in Judge Collyer’s responses is a need for careful consideration of each unique request.
♦House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes holds primary oversight authority over the aggregate Intelligence Community (IC). Chairman Nunes has requested the transcripts from the FISA Court during the DOJ/FBI Title-1 surveillance application over their target, U.S. person Carter Page.
♦House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte holds primary oversight authority over the Department of Justice -including the FISA court- and has requested the actual FISA Title-1 application as submitted by the DOJ/FBI for surveillance of Carter Page.
Judge Collyer responds to both legislative branch chairman from the position of “never previously receiving such requests.” There are separation of power challenges, but also an understanding inherent in the response to Chairman Goodlatte of the unique statutory oversight his committee holds.
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That decentralize thing, yup, great idea.
94 percent of dc voted for hitlery!
And Trump has uttered the decentralization word.
Might be possible to make some headway on that concept.
In case of nuclear attack, a decentralized govt allows for continuity.
Michael king repeatedly colluded with and recieved money and orders from Russians. Why was he not charged Why is there a day named for this colluder? Remove it!!
Yes, if communication systems survive.
But if that happens, the chaos would be unthinkable.
Nunes, Gowdy and Schiff has already seen the DOJ application for the warrant to the FISA court when they prepared the MEMO. Now Nunes and Goodlatte want to see the application the FISA court has, why? Unless they have someone or evidence pointing to it being different than what the DOJ has presented. Altered docs is perp walk and means a much more deeper conspiracy and crime going on than before
At the end of “The Star Chamber”, Michael Douglas ends up sitting in a car outside the meeting , recording every word being said.
All the boodle to do the job that is really the job of DOD and the CIA abroad and the FBI if any of them actually try to come here.
And then the simultaneous filling of the agencies with utter dunderheads who couldn't figure out how to use their authority to stop a corrupt payoff if they tripped over it.
GHWB was right. They all should all be chased down the streets.
Only slightly. The SC has appellate jurisdiction as to ALL controversies in which the US is a party - iow all matters on behalf of or against the US government.
Me. I trust nothing in DC. I live here. The first reigning principal is the utter incompetence which is the reigning fearture of DC - we can’t even fix our potholes or imagine why we would expect anyone to do so. Almost no one here is capable of doing much of anything - which is the good news. Then there is the corruption which you all see - lots of moeny in, nothing useful comes out. Then there is the lying - you see all of that too. And then there is the nefarious skullduggery executed by a few genuinely dangerous individuals [who thrive because of the useful idiots who are involved all of the above].
In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.
Congress can not do anything about cases involving ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party
All Other case they DIRECTLY CONTROL!!!
and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.
All it takes is a simple sentence at the end of legislation
The supreme Court Shall remain Silent on this issue.
it has Only been used once in the History of the Republic, but is still available.
The idea of Congress giving Judge Collyer the FISA application they have to compare with the one DOJ/FBI presented to the FISA court is an intriguing idea; and one I’m sure Judge Collyer would be interested in. If she were to find out that the DOJ/FBI has different versions of the same FISA application there would be hell to pay.
And I have some basis for writing that. I don’t post here often, and even less frequently as to personal knowledge, but I worked closely (as a lawyer) for/with Judge Collyer for four years in one of her prior capacities - when she was the equivalent of a civil prosecutor. She was appointed to that position by Reagan. I have the utmost respect for her.
If what you say is true then they may be hope. Obviously worthless Jeff is not going to do a thing. If anything he’s obstructing getting to the bottom of this treachery.
Congress too often forgets that the courts are not self-created. They did not create themselves, nor are they Creations of the Constitution other than the Supreme Court. They are all created by Congress and none more specifically a Congressional creation than the FISA court. As such they are just as subject to Congressional oversight, and transparency with Congress, as are the executive branch agencies Congress created. If Congress was REALLY doing its duty it would have used its political authority long ago and impeached numerous judges throughout U.S. history.
You say - well the Constitution did not define “bad behavior” (though some say there are “understandings” of what it once meant) - which means that term can, politically, be left to Congress when it comes to its judging of judges. Like it or not, it is only Congress constant abdication of its own powers that has made the executive and judiciary dominant over it.
That’s a very good point, but I think you could go beyond this and categorize it as Elitists versus Commoners.
One ideal of Constitutional America was there would be no nobility, and all accolades and positions would be based on merit.
Human ambition said otherwise, and the rich and powerful have always had their lion’s share of things. However, this was never a problem because most Americans understood that with hard work, dedication and maybe a little luck, we all could become rich and perhaps powerful.
However, lately we have been prone to a cult of celebrity that says famous = merit = power. It’s not true, but way too many unconsciously subscribe to it.
There are now thousands of celebrities who think they are born into deciding what all of our fates should be. Because they’re famous. On TV.
The modern media of movies, sports, and television is still shaping and, IMHO, gravely damaging the country and the world.
That’s not just great athletes in big sports, or even just movie or TV stars but all these talking head journalists.
Think about a world run by Christine Anmanpors, Wolf Blitzers, Chris Wallaces, Rachel Maddows and Joy Reids. Where Shepherd Smith’s mascaraed stare shapes peoples’ votes. Where Chuck Todd’s scolding about an already removed presidential secretary becomes the story of the day. Horribly dyostopiac, isn’t it? Yet here we are.
Yes he was! Yet the people of Idaho adored him and named a Wilderness Area after him! I always thought that odd.
You are exactly correct. Today they are being called "deep state" or some other nonsense. The transnationalists have been in effective control of our government since at least the 20s. None of this is new. None of this surprises anyone who has been paying attention.
Anyone who thinks that we have a nation "of, by and for the people" is living in a dream world.
This is unbelievable. Sessions is being held hostage by the DOJ bureaucracy. He is the weakest attorney general ever.
Realizing that "Sessions is bad" is the mantra, I would suggest that is not the issue here. The Congress has already reviewed the documents in possession of the Justice Department but want to compare them to the documents in possession of the court. There is a clear possibility that they are different. If so, that would be a very big deal.
Yes.
Here we are.
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